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Your brake lights get their current from
the turn signal switch (see previous discussion of this subject for the
complete explanation), so that is the likely area for your problem. You could
investigate by having someone stand behind the car while you step on the brake
and wiggle the turn signal switch – chances are you can find a place
where one or both of the brake lights work, at least momentarily, that will
prove where the problem is. Anything which grounds the black horn
wire, anywhere, operates the relay which sounds the horn. When the
car was new, this only happened when the horn ring was pushed, but now the
wires are old and worn – there is a place where it is touching ground –
and it could be anywhere. Dick Benjamin From:
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Behalf Of richard burgess Hi Group, Hope some of you have some advice on my electrical woes. My 1960
LeBaron is giving me fits. My brake lights were working intermitantly and have now stopped working
entirely. I have headlights, front park lights, tail lights, and back up
lights. No turn signal and no brake lights. My rear harness is
fine, cleaned all bulb connections and checked wiring. The power is not
coming through at the connector at the left front kick panel. This
connector to the rear harness has three wires. B-2/D-7/D-8 in the wiring
diagram. The white wire (B-2) is the back up lamps, I get power when the
car is in reverse on the selector. I am not getting power to the green and
brown wires. These wires (according to the wiring diagrams) go to the
turn signal switch which is totally inaccessible without pulling dash
guages. I do have new connectors at the brake switch, and new
switch, at the new master brake cylinder. I am getting power at that
point. I am now lost as to what to try next. My horns stopped working a while back and I determined the ground wire
was broken at the steering column. It also had a flat spot on the brass
roller. I replaced the whole switch with one from a parts car that had
good wires and roller. I was getting sporadic horn play and now when I
turn the wheel right, the horn honks, turn the wheel left, the horn
honks. Cute huh? From under the dash I can see the horn
ground engaging when the wheel gets to a certain left and right location.
I guess instead of having turn signal lights I have horn indicators. I
unplugged the wire. I innitialy thought the problem was in the steering
wheel since it would only honk/respond when you pressed the left side of the
ring. Cleaned all the metal surfaces in the wheel and again swapped out
the parts for nicer ones and was still only getting response on the left
side. My big question is why does the ground involve this roller
mechanism? What on earth does the position of the wheel have to do with
the horn honking???????? What now? The brake lights are my real problem as this car is hard enough to
drive with both hands. Having one out window doing hand signals is
dangerous for me and I think everyone else on the road has forgotten what they
mean anyway. Richard Burgess '60 LeBaron '60 Crown Sedan, (comes back from the bodyshop next weekend!) __________________________________________________ |
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