Hi Jason, Thanks for the info. I knew about the 7176. I wrote it down, gave it to the shop, and made them promise that that's what they would use. I wonder if there's a way to dip a little out of the filler and see what exactly is in there. Can a dealership tell what kind of fluid is in there if I give them a sample? Is there a reputable place where I can order a rebuilt A604 that has all of the things done to it that the TSB's tell me will make this a reliable transmission? I'm willing to put one transmission in-- when that dies, the car goes to the Pick 'n' Pull. Better yet, has anybody successfully swapped a manual transmission in there? I've read in other forums that the issue is the crankshaft position sensor. If somebody has made this work, I'll have it up on jacks and wrenching this weekend. Thanks. Tim ------- From: Jason Wulf <jrwulf@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: IML: Transmission woes on '90 Imp Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Tim, I also own a 90 Imperial with transmission woes, and I'll simply relay to you everything I've heard. I don't know what's fact or fiction, because it all seems to have merit, and different shops that I talk to have different theories as to exactly what's causing it, but they all lead directly to a rebuild. I know for a fact (i had a shop plug his tool into the diag port) that my clutches are way out of spec tolerance. On his tool, normal tolerance was "70-90", and the readout of my clutches was in the neighborhood of 160. I've also heard that some of the solenoids could be plugged, and it's possible that someone sometime put Dexron in it. --This brings me to a brief aside, but I just want to make sure that you did put Mopar 7176 (ATF+3) in when you flushed it, right? I've read horror stories about people that were told Dexron III was good enough, and 10,000 miles after their rebuild the tranny went again. I've also been told that my seals are probably shot, causing incorrect pressures. I just did a fluid flush/fill myself, and now when the car is bone cold the transmission shifts into gear great in the morning. After it's warmed up, if i let it sit for about 20 minutes it'll take sometimes 15 seconds to get into gear. This leads me to believe that it's the seals, but I have no real technical knowledge about this transmission, and after looking at exploded diagrams of the million-billion parts inside, I think I might just best leave it to the 'pros.' =) Hope this helps, -Jason Wulf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm