Re: IML: Carpet Sets and Interior Fabrics
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Re: IML: Carpet Sets and Interior Fabrics



Ok, I understand.  I like the idea of using original fabrics, but here is the problem.  I do a lot of my own upholstery, but I do not want to do the Imperial because, well, I want it to be perfect, and if I pay someone and it isn't right....they can fix it.  If I screw it up, I couldn't deal with it...not at $45.00 per yard.  But, this crack shot upholstery guy I have was complaining about the thickness of my vinyl that I had originally purchased being to thin, and not durable enough.  So, I requested the samples from SMS.  Wow, perfect match...but, much thinner fabric and vinyl than I already had purchased.   The upholstery guy is telling me that he will do the job, but that the vinyl and fabric are so thin (which is true), that they will not hold up long.  Honestly, I don't want to be looking to re-do the interior again in the near future, or decade even.  I live in the desert portion of Washington State behind the rain shadow of the Cascades and what we get the most of is sun....vinyl baking sun.  So, that is why I am searching for some guidance on this one.   ARGH!
 
Secondly, since you are familiar with SMS's fabrics, have you checked their carpet sets?  They say that they are factory correct, but I have not seen them yet, and the samples that they sent me were for fabrics only.  I know that the original carpet wears like iron, as even after 45 years, the carpet is the only thing in the interior that is worth much.   Input on the carpet sets there would be appreciated if anyone has any knowledge of SMS's carpet kits.
 
Thanks much!
 
Teresa
  
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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: IML: Carpet Sets and Interior Fabrics

Teresa,
You seek the answer to one of the million dollar questions.  How long will the original fabric last?  No one can provide you a guarantee to that question.  SMS does sell both reproduction and NOS fabrics for many cars.  The quality is good.  I have used them for my own restoration.  Some fabrics are inherently stonger than others (this can be atested to by the long wearing Herculon on mother's sofa!)  Longevity can be dependent on the size of the yard, the weave of the fabric, and the underlying support of the foam and batting in the seats.  I would suspect that the NOS fabric would stand up to the type of us you will be placing on the car.  Most of us are not using our Imperials or vintage cars the way there were first used when new.  They tend to be a lot more pampered.  Ultimately you will have to decide if originality is worth the price to pay for the fabric and the care you will take to preserve the interior.  The original cloth is still in great condition in my 60 New Yorker coupe.  The problem with this interior is the deterioration of the seat foam.  The car came from Washington which has helped to preserve the interior.  I have another low mileage 60 New Yorker sedan with the broadcloth and snowflake insert interior.  This one is toast as it spent the majority of its life baking in Oklahoma.  The foam and the wool broadcloth are disintegrating right before my eyes!  I tend to like originality so I would encourage you to get the NOS fabric.
 
Carpet for your car is going to be more of a challenge.  Most of the current auto carpet and carpet sets out there today do not have the correct pile type and length of pile for later forward look Imperials (and Chryslers).  I have been searching most of the summer for someone that offers something reasonably close to replace what is in my wagon.  As an example, for 1960 the Imperial and the Chrysler use similar carpeting which has a longer than now offered yarn length and a much higher density.  I have found nothing from an automotive carpet supplier that is close to correct.  All I found was the standard short cut pile nap that in no way offers the same luxurious texture and feel required to make the car look correct.  I ended up ordering a residential carpet which is going to be made into the carpet set.  If anyone has information on where to obtain correct carpet I would love to know.... and I know of several others that would too!
 
So Teresa, I would not be afraid to go with the fabric from SMS.  It will make the car look great and once the work is done you will be pleased.  The new foam and seat materials will also help to ensure long life to the new upholstery.
 
Happy Motoring.
 
Dale
68 Crown Coupe
60 New Yorkers (wagon, coupe, sedan)
78 LeBaron T&C


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