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I just read the posting about maximum sizes of cars....Is it actually true that the Gov't. dictates how large cars can be?  This is incredible..and they call it a democracy!!!??

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From: "Eric"
Subject: IML: Size
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 19:56:00 -0700
Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
As I'm fond of saying to a fellow Imperialist friend of mine:

Its not the size that matters,
it's how it looks pulling up to the bank that counts.

Seems that I've heard that years back, the govt specified the limits to what
quantifies the maximums of vehicle size, and 80'' wide was one of the specs
I recall.

Ok, I think I got some Imperial content in here.

Eric
Portland, OR

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From: "Robin Giesbrecht"
Subject: RE: IML: Carburetor cleaner
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 20:16:30 -0700
Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Somebody somewhere was swearing that Pinesol worked very well!? I am going
to check it out soon and see.

Robin Giesbrecht


>From: "B&T Roddick" <1roscoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "IML"
>Subject: IML: Carburetor cleaner
>Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 15:43:47 -0700
>
>Aside from the water rinse store bought cleaners that come in cans too
>small
>for the parts anyway, what other fluids are good for cleaning carbs? I
>have
>used lacquer thinner before with good results, are there other effective
>concoctions out there?
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:18:16 -0600
From: Mark and Theresa Elliott
Subject: Re: IML: IML DIGEST
Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
That was one of the requirements of my last home purchase (4 years ago). I
had a length of twine that was the length of my car (actually a 76 Cadillac
Fleetwood, since it is a couple inches longer than my 64 Crown). When I
was going around with the realtor the first thing I did was check the
garage. If it wasn't long enough, then it was time to go onto the next
house. The house I ended up getting has a 25 foot garage, so I have plenty
of room to fit my Imperial in, though it is supposed to be a 2 car garage,
and once the Imperial is in there, I am not sure where the second care is
supposed to go.

Mark Elliott
1964 Crown 4dr, currently filling my extra long garage

At 07:15 PM 5/28/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>From: "Hugh & Therese"
>Subject: IML: Big car, ordinary garage
>Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:13:36 -0500
>Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>I wonder how many people on this list have made whether or not their
>Imperial will fit into the garage a major deciding element in the purchase
>of their current dwelling? My 58 just barely makes it into mine. I have
>just enough room to squeeze behind the car and the door, if the front is
>touching the wall. What I was not caring about as much at the time but
>would now, is how close the sides of the car come to the doorway. Driving
>it in and out involves more skill than I probably employ in any other
>driving situation.
>
>Hugh

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From: "Don Hudson"
Subject: Re: IML: Size
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 23:30:29 -0400
Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I concur with Eric on the width. I believe that the idea behind that size
was that anything over that would need running lights like a big truck. I'm
sure the 60's and 70's Imperials probably came close to that size, since you
could seat 3 decent size adults across.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 10:56 PM
Subject: IML: Size


> As I'm fond of saying to a fellow Imperialist friend of mine:
>
> Its not the size that matters,
> it's how it looks pulling up to the bank that counts.
>
> Seems that I've heard that years back, the govt specified the limits to
what
> quantifies the maximums of vehicle size, and 80'' wide was one of the
specs
> I recall.
>
> Ok, I think I got some Imperial content in here.
>
> Eric
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
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From: "jsadowski"
Subject: Re: IML: Big car, ordinary garage
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:20:53 -0700
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The first thing I did was measure the gararge. If it wasn't big enough =
to fit 2 Imperials, I went on to another house. Space is at a premium =
here in the city in AZ, so this was very important.
John

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Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:13 PM
Subject: IML: Big car, ordinary garage


I wonder how many people on this list have made whether or not their
Imperial will fit into the garage a major deciding element in the =
purchase
of their current dwelling? My 58 just barely makes it into mine. I =
have
just enough room to squeeze behind the car and the door, if the front =
is
touching the wall. What I was not caring about as much at the time =
but
would now, is how close the sides of the car come to the doorway. =
Driving
it in and out involves more skill than I probably employ in any other
driving situation.

Hugh


(Size) means everything when you're trying to stuff a 233.6-inch-long =
NYB
into a 19-foot-4-inch-deep garage!
>
> Chris in LA
> 78 NYB Salon
> 67 Crown




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> Chris in LA
> 78 NYB Salon
> 67=20
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From: "B&T Roddick" <1roscoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IML: Carburetor cleaner
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 21:37:20 -0700
Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Pinesol huh, that sure would smell a lot better, be a LOT cheaper, and I
could clean up the floor with it afterwards. When I clean the carb off our
IMPERIAL..., there that's better :o)

B&T Roddick, Port Orchard, WA
1964 Imperial Crown (project)
1972 'Cuda 340 (Tami's toy)
1995 Concorde
1988 Cherokee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Giesbrecht"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 8:16 PM
Subject: RE: IML: Carburetor cleaner


> Somebody somewhere was swearing that Pinesol worked very well!? I am going
> to check it out soon and see.
>
> Robin Giesbrecht


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From: "Hugh & Therese"
Subject: Re: IML: Size
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 00:06:05 -0500
Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> I concur with Eric on the width. I believe that the idea behind that size
> was that anything over that would need running lights like a big truck.
I'm
> sure the 60's and 70's Imperials probably came close to that size, since
you
> could seat 3 decent size adults across.
> Don

I imagine one can fit more, if they are prepared to be indecent!

Hugh

PS. This reminds me of the time I used the 58 at high school prom, as a
gift to the son of a friend of the family. Going to the hotel down town, I
had the young man and his date in the back, and a similar combination in the
front. When I went to pick them up, and it is pretty cool to be picked up
by an Imperial at your high school prom, the young man asked me if I would
take some of his companions waiting for taxis to the follow on party. Why
not? I think I had four couples in the rear, four happy young men in
tuxedos with their formally dressed dates in their laps, and one less happy
boy and his date in the front.

PPS. Several years ago, my daughter, now aged ten, asked me if the Imperial
would be finished by the time she graduated. At the rate things are going,
one step forward and two steps back, I admit to still not being sure.

Hugh


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Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 01:30:12 -0400
From: RandalPark@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: IML: Biggest Imperial, a conundrum
Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Well, you got me there.

The smallest garage that I have was not quite long enough to fit the '63 Imperial all the way in and swing the door shut. I should probably admit that the car had a hand in making it possible to shut the door, and there are two "garage extensions" critically placed in the wall board behind the car in the exact shape of those round back-up lights in the rear bumper!

Now the door shuts just fine.

Paul

In a message dated 5/28/2004 9:20:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

>
>
> It means everything when you're trying to stuff a 233.6-inch-long NYB into a 19-foot-4-inch-deep garage!
>
> Chris in LA
> 78 NYB Salon
> 67 Crown
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RandalPark@xxxxxxx
> Sent: May 28, 2004 4:29 PM
> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: IML: Biggest Imperial, a conundrum
>
> Since you mentioned it, actually, the wheelbase is more meaningful when it comes to handling and ride characteristics. All Imperials are BIG cars. I don't see what a few extra inches of bumper, or black rubber bumperettes, really has to do with very much of anything at all.
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 01:35:19 -0400
From: RandalPark@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: IML: Biggest Imperial, a conundrum
Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hmmm, since this is the IML I am going to have to assume that this comment is related to Imperials...right??

Paul

In a message dated 5/28/2004 8:09:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hugtrees@xxxxxxxx writes:

>
>
> Sorry. I can't resist . . .
>
> The thing of it is, Paul, size does matter.
>
> Hugh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:29 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: Biggest Imperial, a conundrum
>
>
> > Since you mentioned it, actually, the wheelbase is more meaningful when it
> comes to handling and ride characteristics. All Imperials are BIG cars. I
> don't see what a few extra inches of bumper, or black rubber bumperettes,
> really has to do with very much of anything at all.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > In a message dated 5/28/2004 5:45:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> hugtrees@xxxxxxxx writes:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I asked about which year yielded the biggest ever Imperial. Usually
> such a
> > > request is snapped up like a duck on a June bug, but not this time. I
> think
> > > there was general agreement that length was the key indicator, and also,
> > > pretty much, we were talking about regular production models, not
> vehicles
> > > that were subsequently stretched by an outside company. I started
> looking
> > > myself, in a Collector's Guide I have and then our own Imperial club web
> > > site and I have realized why the silence. Instead of length, a fairly
> > > useful measurement and not, one would have thought, impossible to
> obtain, we
> > > seem to be plagued by all but useless 'wheel base' numbers. There may
> be a
> > > marginal benefit to knowing wheel base but, in real terms, it describes
> > > little except to hint at what the real length is. What a drag.
> > >
> > > Hugh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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From: Imperial59crown@xxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 02:17:33 EDT
Subject: IML: Chris's is bigger than mine!
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Are you sure you NYB is 233 inches long? My '59 is 226, and would make it
into my one car condo garage only if I cleared everything out of it including the
garbage cans, and even then I would probably have to climb out of the window
to get out of it. As Hugh wrote, when I go to purchase a new home whenever
that time may come in this real estate gone crazy area of Southern California,
garage space will definitely be number one on my list! A nice deep three car
garage would be ideal. My Imperial has been sitting outdoors for some eight to
ten years now, and once I get it repainted, outdoor parking will no longer be an
option. Besides the car is rapidly approaching it's golden years, and is past
the days of sleeping under the stars!

Bill '59 Crown, still under the knife


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