That is quite a theory but I do not entirely buy it.In a carburated engine it is quite simple. More air flow equals more fuel flow and less vacuum.Simple. High vacuum equals less air flow equals less fuel flow. Try plugging a vacuum gauge into your cars vacuum system and drive it. I have and found the results interesting.Not hard to do nor expensive. Injection is another story but this is not the case.The efficiency ratio I have problems with also. Every engine/driveline combination has it's sweet spot. I think this is the reponsiveness that Kerry is referring to, not wide open in second gear.. It is not necessarily slower is more efficient. I run my 72 over high mountain highways regularly. It loves to run between 80-90 mph and will deliver consistent 15 mpg(imperial measurement). Thta is dual exhaust and a carter avs.With the car running at that speed I can keep my foot out of the throttle a lot more than I can if I run it at 60-70 mph. Robin Giesbrecht >From: dardal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kerry Pinkerton <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx> >CC: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: IML: Fuel mileage >Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 11:29:02 -0500 > >Kerry its hard to tell for sure if the higher rpm or the lower works >better, >because there are competing factors. At the lower rpm, the torque >converter >will slip more (I assuming we are talking about an Imperial towing), and >converter sippage equals energy loss. The engine however is more efficient >at >the lower rpm high load setting. Of course, this is a carburated engine, >so >its possible that the mixture is richer at the low rpm high load, hard to >tell. > In an injected car, as long as you are not in the enrichment level, it >should >be more economical to be at the highest possible load at the lowest >possible >rpm. > >No, maximizing vacuum does not improve gas mileage. In fact, operating the >engine under vacuum is very inefficient by itself, as during the intake >stroke, >the piston "fights" the vacuum (that's one of the reasons diesels are more >fuel >efficient, they do not operate with a throttle that creates vacuum). > >The fact the engine is more responsive at the higher rpm does not mean its >more >efficient operating condition. FOr example, at 70-75 you can cruise with >second gear, and it will be far more responsive if you floor it, but there >will >be little argument on the effect on gas mileage. > >You could install a flow meter to measure gas flow. That would tell you >the >most efficient condition. It would not be cheap though. > >D^2 > >Quoting Kerry Pinkerton <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > I have a question about fuel mileage. Will running with the RPM on the > > lower side of the torque curve (about 1800 rpm) when pulling heavy (as > > in towing) be worse on mileage than shifting down so the RPM is up in > > the fatter part of the torque curve (about 2500). At lower RPM the > > motor seems to be lugging when towing while at the higher RPM the motor > > seems more responsive and it SEEMS like my foot is not as close to the > > floor. > > > > If I put a vacuum guage on the car will that show me the best operating > > conditions for max mileage? Does higher vacuum = higher mileage? This > > is one case where one of those instantaneous mileage computers would be > > handy.... > > > > Kerry > > > > > > >