I tried this off line but it would not mail? Lawrence R Noska lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx Hauser, ID 83854 -----Original Message----- From: Larry Noska [mailto:lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 2:42 PM To: PNKMoore@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: IML: '58 Imperial. Larry Noska asked, so the saga continues... Patrick How can you resist the urge to tinker with the car? My dads 82 has a coolant leak I changed the lower radiator hose last week, the leak stopped for a few days. I took the car for a ride and it leaked more coolant. The drops are coming from around the end of the crank shaft. In my thinking that leaves only one possible curl pert the water pump. This car has spent a lot of time in my dads garage the last 18 years, in California it has 23,000 on the odometer. I drove it to Idaho about 1,800 miles. We went to church last night, so this morning I snuck out to the garage to look at the water pump replacement. If I would have been caught-- "on Easter Sunday working on a OLD car" girls just don't under stand. Ha Ha I sent this of line because it might be construed as a personal message. Doesn't look like a big project to change the water pump, will do it next week. I enjoyed your report on the car. Where did you find get the car? Lawrence R Noska lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx Hauser, ID 83854 -----Original Message----- From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of PNKMoore@xxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:47 AM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: IML: '58 Imperial. Larry Noska asked, so the saga continues... I had my inoperable but intact 1958 Imperial 4dr hrdtp delivered last Monday. Since then I've sent out questions and received many notes of good advice and encouragement. On the assumption that anyone is interested, and since Larry Noska asked, the saga continues... Yesterday I pushed! Having spent the better part of Friday afternoon washing a few layers of crud off of the entire car and motor, I went out Saturday morning with my wife and children to a local animal park to redeem part of the family weekend. (Global Wildlife. Very cool place here in Southeast Louisiana: http://www.globalwildlife.com/) I wasn't able to stay away from the car in the afternoon, however, and went over there as soon as I could get away. "Over there" means that the car is parked behind a house that belongs to my parents about a mile from my house. That house has an available garage and has the added benefit of keeping the car from under my wife's appropriately critical eye. Seeing that car and trunk had totally dried from the vigorous pressure washing I'd given it the day before, my plan was to try and push it into the garage. That meant that I first had to clean the last of 10 years worth of junk out of the garage, sacrificing stuff I'd once held dear enough to store in there in the first place, etc. On Friday, while I was washing the car, my Dad had come over and cleared out most of the junk. I was ruthless with the remnants, because the Imperial is so long and I knew I'd need every inch. Then I pumped up a low tire, by hand. Stupidly I'd left my compressor in my daily driver when I sent it to be painted a few weeks ago (another story). I've needed the compressor about three times since then, which is ironic because it usually bonks around in the trunk for a year or two between uses. 500 strokes with a bicycle pump later, and I have enough air in the tire to roll the car, or so I thought. And then I pushed, and pushed, and pushed. I got about 6 feet across leaf-strewn gravel and decided that unless I wanted an emergency hernia repair, I'd better get some help. I used to push my old cars around when I was younger, but I guess I'm out of practice. (or just old and used up, but we won't go there). I drove off and found a hapless neighbor and together we shoved the thing about 1/3 of the way into the garage where it stopped and refused to budge another inch. Besides being only just over 19 feet long, the garage was built for narrow cars or horse carriages or something, because it's a bit skinny. As a result, we were extra careful not the take out a wall and I aimed the car over and over by easing the steering wheel while we rolled it. What we figured out, amid a whole lot of bitching, sweating and laughing (he's from Rome and he kept cussing in Italian and Latin, which sounded hilarious for some reason) was that the parking brake or one of the shoes was clinging and preventing a free roll. At least it wasn't only because I'm pushing 40! At that point, I sent my sweating, aching, cursing neighbor off to his house and went home. I'm disappointed because I particularly wanted to get it inside since it's supposed to rain tomorrow (Easter Sunday). The trunk seal is missing, thanks to the squirrels, and I don't want it to leak again. I went to dinner tonight with visiting family and my mind kept wandering back to the half-protected car and the problem of moving it a few more feet. This is not to say that I wasn't entirely without triumph. While shoving, I spied the VIN plate on the driver's door frame. I had fleetingly wondered where it was, knowing that I would need it eventually when I re-title the car. I wrote it down and tonight ran it on the IML website's VIN finder. I was delighted that it popped up as a '58. I knew it was a '58, but only by the grill and other body studies I'd done off of the Internet, so I was only pretty sure of the year. It's cool to see it in print. I'm sure to get the car covered by some means as the days progress. I'm waiting for my hydraulic jack and some jack-stands to arrive so I can creep under the car (and yes, I've cut some 8x8s the shove under the rocker panels as back-up. Thanks for the tip!) and worry off the oil pan. I anticipate, thanks to some advice from Hugh or Dick or Randall(I can't remember which) having to release a torsion bar or some front end part in order to free the pan. It'll be my first glimpse into the motor. I can hardly wait. I'll keep you posted! Anybody know how many Advil you can take without killing yourself? My muscles ache. Epilogue: It's the next day, Easter Sunday: I worry that I'm obsessed. I thought about the car being exposed when I woke in the night and early this morning when the kids were hunting Easter eggs (in the house, sadly, because the rain did come). We went to church this morning. My wife and I went in separate cars because the kids and I arrived early to get seats. After church I planned to ride by to check the bumper height on the loaner that I'm using while the other car is being painted. Outside of the church, however, I was waylaid by yet another neighbor, Ralph, who had driven by when we were unloading the car last Monday. He wanted to know all about it, and once his wife walked away with a sigh of resignation, he offered to come over right then with his truck and help me push. This is a pretty tiny town, so this all takes place in the space of about 10 square blocks. In our Easter best we pulled up to the house and tried to maneuver his Ford to meet the bumper of the Imperial and push. The Ford bumper was much too high, but since I had his help I drove the loaner into place, which is a 1986 Mercedes 300D. We mashed a thick cushion from an old lawn chair between the two vehicles and I very, very gently revved up the diesel. Slowly, the Imperial eased back into the garage like an obedient cow. I felt like cheering! I was very grateful for Ralph's help, and promised him a ride on the maiden voyage. I didn't even pop a sweat or get a speck of dirt on my church clothes. I'm sure some of you can relate to the immense sensation of relief that I felt when I finally shut the doors on the massive grille and headlights of the car. I've been trying to get it here for weeks, and to finally be able to shut it up and walk off knowing it was protected and in my possession really felt like an accomplishment. More to come! I'm off to Easter dinner at my parent's house, at which I will undoubtedly be staring out the window, musing about the next task. Oil pan.... oil pan...oil pan... Patrick Moore Southeast Louisiana.