Hello All; To that list I would add Howard "Dutch" Darin who styled many attractive looking Packards in the early 40's and most of the Kaiser/Frazer cars. Brooks Stephens, who created the Jeepster and many Studebakers from the early 60's. Robert Borque, not the Supreme Court Judge, who styled the 1953 Studebaker coupes, which Lowey took credit for as he did with Exner's Studebaker designs. Ray Dietric (SP?) stylist of many cars from the classic era including Packards and the Imperials of the late 30's. Finally William Lyons, to ad an influential Englishman to the pack, he designed every Jaguar made from the start of the company to his retirement in the early 70's. I tend to think that Harley Earl was a little over rated in the styling department, he was more or less an excellent administrator and manager. He had a well refined way of putting ideas from various sources into action, and a real knack for timing when it came to giving the public what they wanted. What I am saying is that if you are going to call Harley Earl a styling genius you would have to call George Walker of Ford a styling genius as well, when really he was an administrative and organizational genius. This is no slight at the man at all, every organisation needs people like him if it is to function well and thrive, unfortunately something that Mother MoPar has lacked from time to time. By the way Alex Tremulis not only designed the Tucker Torpedo but designed the Chrysler Thunderbolt. He was also employed in the advanced styling studio at Kaiser after Tucker took a dive. He is a fellow whom I wish had the opportunity to see at least one his car designs reach production instead of a few paltry styling ideas. Best Regards Arran Foster 1954 Imperial Newport, Not dowdy if you own one. Needing A Left Side Tailight Bezel and other trim parts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B.A. Samoila" <fift8imperial@xxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: Re: IML: Introducing Mr Virgil Exner My own personal musings on this topic: True, the world of automotive design has had its greats: Alex Tremulis, Raymond Lowey, Bill Mitchell, Mr. Engel, and Mister Earl just to name a few of the more famous ones of the mid 20th century when in my humble opinion was the height of this art. And then there was Mr. Exner who, again in my opinion, surpassed them all. He was the only one who had not only an eye for futuristic design, but the ability and the presence of forethought to actually take what was a dream car and have it put into production. Just look at the dull styles of the early 50's that he had to work with and how, with very little resources in '53 and '54, he was able to soften their lines and attempt the silk purse out of the sows ear. ( sorry you early '50's guys) And then the magic started to flow in '55 and '56 when Chrysler's sedate outdatedness took on a modern look, and sales began to indicate that "we might just have something here." I believe that Mr. Exner reached the zenith of his abilities in the '57 lineup when even the famous Mr. Earl (a man by the way that I truly admire for all his flamboyance as well as talent) had to stand up and not only take notice, but admit that he'd been one upped by the competition. We've all heard the story of the GM corporate styling department meeting when Mr. Earl came in, threw down a photo of a production '57 Plymouth and began to go down his team's collective throat. The fruits of Mr. Exner's talents caused GM to scramble through their one year offerings for '58, and I guess in a roundabout way ( this is a bit of a stretch here) had something to do with their '59 lineup causing the here-to-fore style leaders to play the game of catch up. ( I still love '59 Chevys though). Just look at his '57-'59 models...don't they still look fresh today...45 years later? Now that's staying power. Mr. Exner, I thank you for your products, I admire you for your talents, and I truly acknowledge your genius. Again...IML...thank you for letting me have these few minutes to expound. BAS __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html