80s belt/alt

["David Utecht" <stealthloader@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rob,

  There are just two brackets you need to run the Dakota accessories, one
for the power steering and one for both the a/c & alternator.  You will also
need an idler pulley (not too expensive at a dealer, $40 or so) and the
tensioner pulley ($75).  You may need to use the power steering pump off of
a Dakota or Ram; I am not sure about that though.  Also this set-up did not
use an air pump since they were able to pass emissions requirements with out
one.  I have thought about doing this conversion and any year Magnum
overhead valve V-6 or V-8 (3.9, 5.2 or 5.9) from 1992 to 2003 will work.
E-Bay is an excellent source for these parts; I picked up the a/c bracket
for $20 last year.  Before I forget, check the timing cover, it too is
different form the one that came on older V-8's.   It looks the same and
bolts right up, however, there is an extra boss on it for a bracket bolt.
If you used the older style cover this too will need to be changed.  The
cover on my 94 Dakota had a crack in it and I bought one off of E-Bay for
$15.  One more thing, if you do end up doing this conversion you may need to
replace the a/c compressor, this is not a bad idea as the newer one is more
efficient and is made for R134.

Dave U.
81 Imp
94 Dakota
02 Stratus

-----Original Message-----
From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rob P
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:36 AM
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: IML: 80s belt/alt

Thanks everybody,

I figured it had to be a 100 amp, but you can never be TOO sure. I put a
Magnum crate motor in it. The thermostat housing is offset to the wrong
(right) side, so I had to remove the a/c compressor.  Now I'll spend the
summer pulling the accessories and brackets off a dakota and trying to hook
it all up or (more likely) I'll just sweat.

On the bright side, I have a 300+ hp new engine and I have my old 360 to
rebuild and drop into one of my projects.

Rob


>From: "David Utecht" <stealthloader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: IML: 80s belt/alt Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:20:48 -0500
>
>Rob,
>
>   All 81-83 Imperials came with a 100amp alternator as standard equipment.
>As for the belt length take a piece of string and run it around the
>pulleys,
>then measure the length.  This is not an exact science but it will give you
>a place to start. By the way what intake manifold did you use?  I used an
>Edelbrock Performer on my 360 and everything bolted right up.
>
>Dave U.
>81 Imp
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rob P
>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:01 AM
>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: IML: 80s belt/alt
>
>Does anybody know if my '83 would likely have a 100 amp alternator?  I
>assumed they'd all be the same, since there were no options, but the NAPA
>site indicates at least 2 alternators. I have to disconnect my a/c and
>leave
>the compressor off because it interferes with my new intake.  I figured I
>could get the belt from a Cordoba/Mirada with no a/c, since my belt will no
>longer be going around the a/c pulley.  Problem is that the NAPA site
>indicates different part numbers for 100 amp and non-100 amp alternators.
>Worse, it indicates that the belt is the same for a 100 amp with or without
>a/c! That can't be right. The belt would have to be considerably shorter.
>
>Any ideas appreciated. Yes, I have the FSM, unfortunately they are with my
>mechanic.  He could take care of all this, but he's been doing me a favor
>and I'm trying to make the job go faster and easier (cheaper).
>
>Thanks.
>Rob
>
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