title troubles? should be relatively easy
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title troubles? should be relatively easy



I use Broadway Title Co., Inc. P. O. Box 130303, Birmingham, AL 35213  They send me a form, I fill it out, have it notarized, send it off, charge the approx. $150 to my credit card.  I get back about two weeks later, a Bill of Sale from Alabama which I then can use to register and title the car in CA.  I end up with a CA title.  It's legal because for old cars in AL, they never issued titles, just bills of sale, so CA recognizes the bill of sale.  I do this when I have no title or for an out of state car with title problems.  Works for me. For out of state cars, have to take the car to DMV to have the car verified, that is, check the VIN # to see if it matches the paperwork.  Just was ready to go and get a newly purchased out of state car verified  and then registered.  Checked the title VIN # I had with the number on the car, found they were different Big surprise to me.    Didn't want to face the hassle so sent off to AL the application with the VIN# on the car.
 
I'm sure there are other less expensive ways, but I have a real problem with getting on the wrong side of DMV clerks(read a few BAD experiences), so I prefer to think way ahead to NOT have problems when I get there.  Once, they claimed the VIN tag on one car looked as if it had been messed with and reattached.  took three months with numerous trips to the Highway Patrol.  Even with color photos of other letter cars showing the exact kind of VIN tag attachment, still they wouldn't accept it without the three month process of hopping through their hoops.
 
Henry in Richmond, CA
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Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:16 PM
Subject: IML: title troubles? should be relatively easy

Where there's a will, there's a way.  This person probably isn't a car person and would rather jettison the car and leave the trouble to someone else.  That's the good news, as their text will probably scare away other non-car people.  That car's gorgeous - go get it.
 
I don't know about other states, but there have been several threads in the past here about getting a car titled.  If they can title home-built hot-rods and kit cars, they can title a used car with missing title.
 
In California, the records are kept for something like 3 years and then tossed.  If the VIN does not show on their records or those of other states, the car "does not exist" on the books.  It is then up to the applicant to get a title.  I think it is more convenient to posess a car with no plates, either, so would not mention them unless "finding" them made things easier.
 
The method that I like is that used by mechanics, tow companies, and salvage yards (guess who you should be asking locally?  what do they do when a car is abandoned or storage or repair bills are outstanding?). 
 
California allows you to hold a lein sale if you post notice to allow a property owner to collect back storage fees for an "abandoned" car.  The owner has first right of refusal to pay the fees.  If they are uninterested or can't be found, the car can then be put up for a public auction.  If nobody comes and makes a bid on the lein that you have placed on the car for storage, you get to keep it, title it, and are then empowered to resell it.  That's how I got a basket case 70's motorcycle registered when it had no plates and had been obviously dismantled into little bits for at least 10 years in the basement of the rental property that a buddy inhabited.  The process was almost easier timewise than some of the routine things they make you do, like the driver's eyeball test and photo.



Kenyon Wills          
San Lorenzo/SF Bay Area
 
 
1973 Chrysler Imperial  --   >http://imperialclub.com/Yr/1973/Wills/index.htm
 


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