I am an amateur genealogist at night (when it's too dark to work on cars - lol!) and I checked the Social Security Death Index just now: Virgil Exner, born Sept. 24 1909, died December 1973, last residence was Michigan. Elwood Engel - take your pick: Born Feb 1917, died June 1986, last residence was Michigan - OR - Born Jan 1907, died June 1978, last residence was New Jersey - OR - Born Mar 1910, died Sept 1981, last residence was Michigan. Or, they both could be still alive. Didn't Exner's grandson have a concept car design on the Chrysler site? I kinda remember him talking about his late grandfather. Laurie Carter '59 Crown aka The Pink Lady > Does anybody in the club knows what happen to Vigil Exner after Chrysler > let him go, and is he still alive today. Same question for Elwood Engel. > > Rich Woolf > '66 Crown > '73 LeBaron > >