Confirmation: Cam gear all chewed up, chain so loose that I could lift it off the gear. Paul, did you have a question about timing gears, I can tell u all about them, now. :-) Eric '63 Crown Four-Door '72 Newport Custom Sedan From: dardal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:44:26 -0600 Subject: IML: 72 440 dead Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Eric, before you conclude that the timing gear jumped a tooth and is responsible for the engine dying, why don't you try the more usual (and easy to repair) factors first. Is there fuel? Is there spark? Drop a small quantity of gas in the carb, and crank it. If it tries to fire up, may be you have a fue problem. (are there any gasoline smells coming from the carb whith the air cleaner off? Any fuel squarting when you pump the throttle linkage by hand?). If that turns out negative (fuel delivary OK) try spark. Remove a sparkplug and with the plug wire on it, put the plug on a metal part of the car to get it grounded. Then crank, and observe for spark. This is easier done at night. Does 72 year model have electronic ignition? These are known to die w/out warning. D^2