Ditto dittoes twice again already - this was deja vu all over again for me! Unfortunately, the last one I did I discovered that the original thin headliner material that I so easily obtained in 1987 is no longer available, at least around here (SoCal), all they have is the thick stuff with 1/4 inch foam bonded to it. Dick Benjamin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kurt Piepenburg*" <trukkcp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: IML: 82 Imperial Headliner removal. > Absolute dittoes on the headliner removal. Also have them try not to use > headliner material that's any thicker, if possible, than the original > stuff.Quoting Neil Thorpe <nt014b6628@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > Phil, > > > > I can't help you with the rear shelf but please impress on your trim shop > > guys > > how delicate the headliner shell is, it takes a lot of time and patience to > > remove > > all the trim from inside the car so that the headliner can be removed. > > > > The best way i found to get the headliner out of the car is to lower the > > passenger door window fully then recline the passengers seat back all > > the way and gently coax the liner out, it's not easy and can't be rushed > > as if any pressure is put on the liner it will fall apart. Both front seat > > belts > > must be removed completely otherwise they will get in the way. > > > > I retrimmed my 82 a couple of months ago so i know how delicate the > > headliners can get after 20 years of life, my carpet is light grey in > > colour > > or quicksilver as Chrysler called it which being light hasn't shown much > > fading so still matches the carpet well enough. > > > > I found a cardboard tag on my carpet which says that the original carpet > > was made by J.P.Stephens & Co Inc. the location is illegible unfortunately. > > > > Neil 82 Imp > > London, England. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phil Brust" <pbrust@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 3:49 PM > > Subject: IML: 82 Imperial rear shelf > > > > > > > The rear shelf in my Imperial looks bad and I'm not sure how to fix it. > > It's > > > the same plush carpet as the floor but the sun has faded it and it > > appears > > > someone has attempted to dye it. > > > > > > I'm having a new headliner and some leather seat panels replaced and the > > > trim shop owner couldn't match the carpet texture. He showed me samples > > of > > > the same color in a "short-hair" pile. > > > > > > Has anyone had good results with dye on the long, plush fiber carpet > > found > > > in these Imperials? > > > > > > Does anyone know of a reliable source for exact replacement carpet > > (keeping > > > in mind I only need to replace the rear shelf and not the molded carpet > > on > > > the floor)? > > > > > > The trip to the trim shop was about sixty miles and it was pleasurable. > > Even > > > though the Imperial shares the same body with the Fifth Ave, there's a > > lot > > > of difference in ride and handling between it and my daily driver. > > > > > > Happy New Year > > > > > > Phil Brust > > > Jefferson GA > > > 73 & 82 Imperial > > > > > > > >