Quoting "John G. Napoli" <john@xxxxxxxxx>: > Exactly. That's why lockup clutches on trannys with torque converters > are > very important. Depending on the stall speed of the converter and the > weight of the car, you can see a 10% drop in engine rpm once the lockup > clutch is engaged, at highway speeds. That's a measurable improvement > in > mpg. Fluid couplings would show a much smaller improvement. Hard to John, its a lot less than that for cars like our 60's and early 70's Imperials. For normal crusing it can get as low as 1% or even less (see my prior post). Even at WOT, as long as the engine speed is around 4000 rpm or more, it will be of the same order (1-2%). Modern cars with small engines have high stall converters, and these will slip a lot more. Also, these engines have a lot less torque, so the lock-up clutch can be a ot weaker, and it often locks on all gears. D^2