David; That DeHaviland engine must have been only lightly frozen if they got it loose with only hot oil. I didn't have much luck with penetrating oil either, in my case diesel, in loostening my engine and I left it soaking for months. The factor that likely helped was that the DeHaviland likely had a sleeved aluminium block with which the hot oil would likely cause more thermal expansion in the cylinders then it would with an unsleeved iron block. This probably was a great help in loostening the rings in this fashion. In the case of the engine in my car the piston rings were so rusted in place that I had to boil vinegar right in the cylinders to disolve the rust. Even so I spent a good amount of time pounding the pistons out with a block of wood. One problem with the hot oil trick, other then the burn hazard, is that you can't pour enough of it into a cylinder, that's resting at TDC, to heat up the piston and cylinder. Another problem would be that on a wedge head engine you can't get a straight shoot into the top of the cylinder from the spark plug hole so you would have to remove the head to pour the oil in. I have heard of all kinds of tricks for loostening a stuck engine but no one that told me about them had actually tried them. In the end I came up with my own which were also the only ones that worked, along with a great deal deal of muscle. Best Regards Arran Foster 1954 Imperial Newport Needing A Left Side Taillight Bezel and other trim parts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Sherratt" <dave-tracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Online Imperial Club" <Mailing-List@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:06 PM Subject: IML: Compression & starting. > The thread about compression, engines and carbon build up appears quite > often on the list. A couple of weeks ago I was watching a TV programme > about the restoration of an old de Havilland Gypsy Moth. The interesting > part of the programme was the old aircraft's engine. It was froze up, the > crank could not turn and to avoid any damage to the engine's pistons, rings > and liners, the cylinder head was removed (they already tried WD40 and other > penetrating oils which didn't work) and a gallon of light oil was boiled and > poured into the cylinders. After a few hours the oil had disappeared, > lubricated the rings and the mechanic was able to turn the engine over by > hand. Got to hand it to the flyboys for a new old trick that I'd never > heard of before. Would it be possible to fabricate some sort of funnel > which would do the same job without the necessity of removing the cylinder > head? Word of caution - a gallon of boiling oil can do some serious damage > to the human body! > > Dave > 60 Le Baron > England > > >