What years were series II jags made? I want ot go fishing in the Junk yard across the street. I only pay enough attention to them to avoid hitting them in the parking lot. --- Muir Me <sirspaniard@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Series II Jag XJ's have a very similar motor size - > biggest difference being > that they have the 90o gear drive which one hacks off > (very roughly of > course) and they fit just fine - Over here in NZ there > 1.3 billion jags so > these motors aren't a problem - they're delco ones, but > don't know many > other applications - I'm looking into silly little > Japanese things at the > moment - but the Jag ones apart from the cutting off the > top, are pretty > much bolt in... > > > >From: kenyon wills <imperialist60@xxxxxxxxx> > >Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: IML: 1960 Window Lift-Motor/Otis & rebuilding. > >Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:13:11 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > The lift motors are available too,I can get 'em from > the > > > place where I work > > > for about $40(employee purchase)plus core. Cardone > > > rebuilds 'em. I am not > > > sure if the early-mid '60's motors resemble the '70's > > > motors. I don't know > > > the years of interchangeability. Does anyone? > > > > > > >The 1970's units appear in pictures to have the gears > and a > >small 90 degree transmission assembly integral to them. > > > >The early 1960's units come in 2 sizes for the motor > body, > >but are interchangeable due to identical diameter > bodies. > >They are motors that look like they belong in the head > of a > >milkshake machine at the soda fountain, and are a > smaller > >version of the unit that drives the 6-way seat in these > >cars. > > > >The larger (slightly longer body with rubberized > covering) > >motor has removable bolts and is supposedly rebuildable, > >but I did not locate anyone interested in performing > this > >despite asking about 5 electric motor places. The > smaller > >one is not clad in black rubber and has rivet-like bolts > >that would need to be ground off to be dismantled. I > wager > >that the rubber covered versions (came on post 1960 > cars, I > >think) were an attempt to fix/amend without redesigning. > > > >Both units clamp into a stamped, molded metal bracket > >recepticle, and have a pencil-sized chrome driveshaft > that > >has a flat on one side. There is a thick rubber > >"driveshaft" about an inch long that fits between the > motor > >and the input shaft of the window mechanism that the > motor > >is to drive. The rubber of the driveshaft allows the > thing > >to come to a sold stop while absorbing the torsion of > the > >motor in a non-rigid way, sparing the metal gearing in > the > >window mechanism when the window hits the full-up or > full > >down stop positions. > > > >They are in a position in the door such that water > dripping > >down the window in rain or car washes comes to reside in > >and on the motor, rusting the bearings solid in short > time, > >especially when sitting outside, even with the windows > >closed. > > > >These are one of the 1960's achilles heels, and most > parts > >sources are consistently picked clean of these - > indicating > >that they are a weak point on others' cars too. Lowell > is > >getting $75 or more for each of them, and bless his > heart, > >the man has a real knack for knowing what's valuable and > >what isn't, then making certain that you know too. > > > >If your shop is interested in looking at rebuilding > some, I > >wager that you could get $35 each easy and $50 medium, > >maybe more. The parts that go bad are the > bushing-bearings > >and the shaft that they ride on. The rest seems to > cleanup > >OK, but that is not my bag and a motor person might see > >otherwise. > > > >I volunteer some of my toasted motors and financing to > you > >if you think that you have a path to fix them. Might > turn > >out to be a good source of beer money for your place of > >employ. > > > >Boo-hoo - I just don't think that these are available > >rebuilt, and I have to use crummy old sed ones that > differ > >in speed and efficiency. > > > >Please let me know if you can help or know otherwise. > (I > >was also thinking about appropriating a motor from > another > >application, but am not at that point in the car project > yet). > > > >===== > >Kenyon Wills > >6o LeBaron - America's Most Carefully Built Car > >73 LeBaron - Long Low & Luxurious > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > >http://movies.yahoo.com/ > > > >