While we are on the subject of design flaws,how about: 1)The postage stamp sized passengers-side rear-view mirror on my '75 (and many others). Convex mirrors must not have been invented yet. :o( Oh.. 2) Headlight Dimmers. How does it know when you are approaching a car from behind?? Does it detect tail-lights? My guess is NO. There is nothing worse than a guy in a car behind you with his Hi-Beams on. 3) Power door locks in 2dr cars. Sensible options: Vent windows,power doorlocks and windows in 4dr cars,trunk releases,A/C,rear heat-defrost,cruise control,p-seats with recline,remote mirrors,Sure-Grip,...and prolly many more. Steve from Albany,N.Y. '75 Imp 4dr <--rear pads this weekend. (I wrote that last month too.) '79 440 powered 35 ft RV <--4 new mirrors. Better right side vis than the Imp. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Imperial59crown@xxxxxxx Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: IML: Design Issues Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 04:58:48 EST To say that I've bought the wrong car because I didn't like the position of the rear view mirror is an insult. Our Imperials although almost perfect cars do have some design flaws, just as any other car will also have. Just because I pointed one out does not mean I should sell my car and buy a Caddy. I love my car probably more than anyone else on this list loves theirs. Just because you love it doesn't mean you can't discuss it's flaws. The dash mounted rear view mirror does greatly obstruct your forward right vision, but it is a feature that was unique to these cars, and something I always thought was very cool looking. It is also something I would never replace, nor did I ever say anything to the likes. I bought my Imperial because of all these little cosmetic details, whether they be safe or not, after all back in the Fifties they used to hang all kinds of stuff off the overhead mounted rearview mirrors in other cars, so I guess no one was really concerned about maximum visibility. While I am on design flaws, does anyone know how to check your brake fluid level in a '59, without having to have two people pull back on the bellows, while another takes the cap off. Bill '59 Crown _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com