At 12:13 AM 3/5/2002 -0600, you wrote: >PS Why is it called a hardtop anyway? I know what a soft top is. Hugh, I am not sure if this is right, but the original term was "hardtop convertible". Without a B-pillar it is as if the car is a convertible, but it actually has a hardtop rather than a soft top (so, its really not a convertible, but it kind'o looks like one). Eventually, the term got simplified and the second word got damped and forgotten. I had read this on the British "Classic Cars" Magazine when they made a presentation of an early 50's Bu*ck Roadmaster 2 door hardtop, I think 53. D^2