I just read Dick's message about his personal experience with the CA DMV, which didn't match several of my experiences, but is valid none-the-less. Please don't ever give up hope with those folks - just with the interpretation of the law that you get. I met a local office that tried to make me pay past due registration, and then got around it by putting a lein-sale on the car - obviating the past history of the car and eliminating the back-fees. I had to really search for that one, but it worked. Cost me $45 for the paperwork. ===== Kenyon Wills 6o LeBaron - America's Most Carefully Built Car 73 LeBaron - Long Low & Luxurious __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com