The lifters don't know what you are doing with the accelerator. If the noise is dependent on accelerator position, the chances are this is either a preignition noise or a more serious mechanical problem. Try retarding the spark timing about 5 degrees to see if it goes away - if it does, relax. If it doesn't, start saving your pennies, it's probably a rod bearing. The right way to start a cold MOPAR of this era is to press down the accelerator pedal about 1/2 way one time to "set" the choke, then release it, and crank the engine. If all is in good shape, the engine will start and idle without further touching of the gas pedal. This procedure is clearly stated in your owner's manual, also. Dick Benjamin ----- Original Message ----- From: <NavyBlues97@xxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: IML: Lifters > Iv got some occasional knocking in one of my valves from starting the > engine (1965-413) with the petal all the way to the floor (BAAAAROOOOOMM tick > tick tick tick...."woops-darn it!"). I had a hard to startup at one time, > from one of those fuel additives a while back that has since gone away. > Blowing a small amount of gray smoke when I accelerate hard too. Again the > noise is only occasional and when I accelerate hard. possibly a lifter. Is > this hard to remedy? Costly at the garage? > Am I correct in the diagnosis? > If this was a Navy FA-18 Hornet I'd know what to do! > > Johan > 65 Le Baron > WA D.C. >