Re: IML: 59 413 engine color

["Rob van der Es" <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Might be a good thing to do Percy!
That is bumping the starter a few times ofcourse, going to the dentist is 
quite another subject :)
Especially when going to a dentist in Amsterdam.., you must be a brave man 
:)

Oh well, at least his drugs will be OK I guess :)

Robert
also from the Netherlands (Ten Boer)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Percy en Caroline" <percy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color


> As much as I like nifty wrenching techniques, I hate worn ring gears. Most 
> engines have a tendency to stop in the same position (revolution) iow the 
> same teeth have the most wear. Perhaps it's a good idea to bump the 
> starter a few times  before trying this aproach?
>
> went to the dentist last week, no laughing matter.             Percy, 
> Amsterdam
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Rob Kidd" <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
>
>
> > I have had this happen too, and what usually occurs is the starter simply 
> > does not have the power to turn the engine with the breaker bar secured. 
> > In that case, you go to "Plan B".
> >
> > David C. Wilker Jr.
> > USAF (RET)
> >
> > ---- Rob Kidd <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >    Sounds easy enough. BUT, what if the bolt was siezed in
> > > the crankshaft tighter than normal and you would shear a
> > > tooth on the starter or the ring gear since the engine
> > > would not normally turn over freely from a dead stop?
> > > Remember, 48+ year old "worn" parts you are dealing with.
> > > I'd try the impact route on the bolt if possible.  Rob Kidd
> > > 61/65
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:35:32 -0600
> > >  "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >Sounds a little scary to me but if you do it this way, I'd
> > > >certainly disconnect the coil wire to make absolutely no
> > > >way the engine would accidently start with the breaker bar
> > > >in place.
> > > >Stevan Miner
> > > >Miner Auto Service
> > > >Winnebago, MN
> > > >
> > > >--------------------------------------------------
> > > >From: <mopar413@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:21 PM
> > > >To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Cc: "Dave Wilker" <wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
> > > >
> > > >> Dave has the right idea.  Just do like he says and make
> > > >sure the socket is
> > > >> on right.  Workd every time. for me.
> > > >> ---- Dave Wilker <wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>> I have a trick. I place the proper size socket on the
> > > >harmonic balancer
> > > >>> bolt, with appropriate extensions, and a good stout
> > > >breaker bar. I turn
> > > >>> the crank carefully until the breaker bar is resting on
> > > >the left frame
> > > >>> rail (driver's side). Once all the tools are firmly in
> > > >place, I bump the
> > > >>> starter. Just a bump. This breaks the bolt loose so you
> > > >can remove it
> > > >>> easily. Be careful when doing this. Make sure the
> > > >socket is all the way
> > > >>> on and there is no slack in the setup.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> David C. Wilker Jr.
> > > >>> USAF (RET)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >>>   From: Rob van der Es
> > > >>>   To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>>   Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:22 AM
> > > >>>   Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   Hi David,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   And, btw, do you have a good trick to remove that
> > > >bolt that keeps the
> > > >>> harmonic balancer on the crankshaft?
> > > >>>   I am in progress of replacing the timing chain of my
> > > >engine, but are a
> > > >>> little afraid to start cause everyone told me that
> > > >>>   this bolt is very hard to remove..
> > > >>>   Especially with the engine in the car, ofcourse I
> > > >don't want to remove
> > > >>> the engine for a relative "simple" job like replacing
> > > >the timing chain!!
> > > >>>
> > > >>>   Robert
> > > >>
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