I drove my 1971 Lincoln Mark III across the San Francisco Bay Bridge in 1996. There was an Imperial transmission in the trunk and I was returning from Lowell's place. A novice driver watched a piece of paper float out her window and locked all four wheels in the slow lane from 55mph to go and retreive it to avoid littering. This bridge is effectively a freeway without any shoulders! The following 4 vehicles stopped in time with inches to spare. I was not able to do so and rammed vehicle number 5, pushing everyone into each other like an accordion. By the time I hit during hard braking, I was probably doing 25 or 30, maybe a little less. The honda in front of me was measured by the CHP to be 11 inches shorter than when it left the factory due to crumple zones that did their job. My car had 2 bent bumper brackets - I re-used the bumper. When I hit, my lap belt held me in place, I "barely" leaned forward as the car decelerated, and my shoulder blades were never more than 3 inches from the seat, so the car didn't jar to a stop, it plowed into and shoved forward the other cars. Had I hit harder, it might have been different, but I'd argue that the most likey situation in an accident with another vehicle is that you'll hit a lighter car and the mass of your car will push them out of the way. Walls, oak trees, and other solid objects will be less forgiving, but this is your classic car that you're driving, and you can adjust for the absence of a shoulder harness by leaving more room and otherwise compensating for your comparatively poor brakes, greater weight, greater stopping distance, and old-fashioned tires, etc. with more space around you. That's what I do, anyway... Kenyon Wills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to iml.webmonster@xxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm