Re: IML: 60 Imperial reflectors
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Re: IML: 60 Imperial reflectors



Hi Robert,
Charles called me this afternoon. He emailed me a picture of your disc. I am going to take mine off my car and take it up to Coat of Chrome along with the picture of your disc. I'll try to get up over the weekend. I think these reflector discs are an ideal application for this process...not threat of rock nicks. I'll let you know as soon as I get a quote from him.
Tom
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob van der Es" <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 60 Imperial reflectors


Thanks again Tom, for your very interesting suggestion.
I think it is worth to investigate if he can do the job for me.
I will forward the message to fellow IML member Charles Rex, who has the
reflector at the moment.
And ofcourse I will let you know what we decide to do!

Robert


Op Wo, 2 augustus, 2006 7:29 pm, schreef Tom Scott:
I visited a guy in PA 2 weeks ago who does 'metallization'..(his term).
He
had some potmetal and plastic parts he did for a 60 Caddy and a 70isn
Nova.
I held the pieces next to the polished stainless and the recently
rechromed front bumper on my 60 Crown and I would challenge anyone to tell
the difference.  The problem with the coating versus the plating is the
hardness of the finished surface.  Obviously the coating isn't as hard as
plating so it is susceptable to stone chips, itc.  For interior pieces or
parts not in the path of an errant stone such as the Flitesweep reflector
I think the
coating is a very viable alternative.  I had a quote from NEL in Philly
for a bunch of my parts that need replating.  The coating process was
about half the cost.   The website is attached.
http://www.coatofchrome.com/default.php
Tom
60 Crown Southampton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob P" <fristpenny@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 60 Imperial reflectors



That's cheating.  That XJ Jag isn't painted, it's polished aluminum.
There
are some decent "chrome" type paints, but nothing too good.  There is a
guy with some kind of plating that chromes fiberglas that looks real
good (have the link someplace) but it probably costs more than getting
the pot metal replaced.


From: Kenyon Wills <imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: IML: 60 Imperial reflectors
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:37:54 -0700 (PDT)


Did you have a case of beer under your arm when you
walked in the door?

Was the machinist an older man - at or past retirement
age?  This is a project for someone with some smarts, patience, and
experience.

Don't let that bad experience get you down.  Keep
looking is my advice.  I'm personally very leery of pot-metal repair.
You might be ahead buying a
drilling tool, grinding out the pits yourself, and then learning how to
melt brass into the divots and grind it down.

Thats "all" they do.  Pain in the behind, if you ask
me. - Especially for an item that need only pass casual scrutiny.


One other suggestion:  Use a wheel to grind the
surfaces flat/smooth. Perhaps on a Dremel tool or something. Fill voids
with body filler, and go to an automotive paint place.  They have
paints that are "almost" indistinguishable from chrome.  You can use
your sand-blasted piece for this one.

http://img26.exs.cx/img26/8163/jaguar-xj0367.jpg


So much of what determines success in life is who you
have helping you.  Most places within 100 KM of you won't be worth
talking to.  You have to search.


Either way, best of luck in your mission - let us know
how things turn out and how painful the solution was?

--- Rob van der Es <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


You are right about that Kenyon, the problem however
is that machinists are often to busy (at least in my area) to have
time to reproduce this disc.

I have tried several but they were all to busy to
even look at it.. And one shop ruined even my original disc when they
 sandblasted it!

That is why I ordered another one from Lowell, and I
am now trying to find me a decent shop that can handle potmetal so
that this one won't be destroyed!!

Robert



Op Wo, 2 augustus, 2006 7:05 am, schreef Kenyon
Wills:

I think that the topic here is the disc that goes
under the emblem in the center of a flightsweep
decklid.

If so:  Why pay $500,000 to have that reflector
repaired?

Seems to me that you could have a talented

machinist
reprduce a new one out of a steel blank and have
it turn out PERFECT and
ready to be plated.

I have not looked at mine lately, but those pot

metal
folks charge a fortune, and there's no assurance
that your restored
potmetal won't sprout more dimples in the future.


-Kenyon



--- Henry Hopkins <hhrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Are you talking about the chrome pieces that
surround a red plastic reflector on the tips of
the rear fins???  If so,
when you get the chrome piece fixed, George
Laurie

Georgelaurie@xxxxxxxxxxx
makes reproduction reflectors that are superb.

If you are not talking about those pieces, excuse

me
for the intrusion.

Henry Hopkins, 60 cvt.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Regis Bodnar" <arbie104@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: IML: Looking for a potmetal repair

shop
in the New York area


Paul's Chrome in Evans City, PA can repair it

and

re-plate it...they are
not cheap, but guarantee everything for life and
use show quality
chrome.

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Behalf Of Rob van der Es


Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:03 PM
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Subject: IML: Looking for a potmetal repair shop


in the New York area


Hi fellow imperialists!



I am trying to restore a trunklid reflector for

my

1960 Imperial, my


fried and fellow IML member Charles Rex (who
also
ownes a 1960 Imp) has
obtained a reflector from Lowell but this one is
heavily pitted.

This became visible after removing the old

chrome

plating.
What I am looking for now is a shop that can


repair the pinnholes and
some craters in the potmetal. After the repair
it
can be copper plated
and rechromed by any plating company, but the
problem is that not many
know how to repair pot metal..

Does anyone know a good repair shop in the New


York area that can handle


potmetal (zamac) ?

Thanks in advance,



Robert van der Es





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