Well said, Kenyon. Since I have three vintage Imperials from three different body-or-chassis periods, I like the variety that is represented on a daily basis, and I like the opportunity to learn as much as I can about all Imperials (and their owners). Just today there was a fun story about an elderly lady's memories of a 1956 Imperial that I would not have seen if I were to stay narrowly focused on my own car and it's year. My '63 is in the position of kind-of straddling two body/mechanicals eras, and I want to hear anything and everything I can that could help me maintain my cars (or, for that matter, to be of help to someone else). I agree that the people are [almost] as interesting as the cars, and it is encouraging to hear what others have battled their way through to bring their cars back to looking respectable and driving as they were meant to. So as far as I am concerned, the whole set-up is more than I had ever dreamed of having available to me. This site is the one-and-only reason I even attempted to learn how to use a computer, and now I'm actually getting almost GOOD at it. Keep it up, and thank you! Kristian Oyen 1963 Imperial Crown Southampton 4-door 1966 Imperial Crown 4-door 1967 Imperial Crown Coupe Etc., etc., etc. -----Original Message----- From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kenyon Wills Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:48 AM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: IML: Suggested changes to the Imperial Mailing List i find it a bit troubling having to > sort through a couple hundred emails only to find 8 > or 10 that actually apply to my year ============== We've had this topic come up about once every 18 months in one form or another since as far back as I can remember. A couple of things to point out: ================================ 1. People can pick up techniques for their car even if the post refers to a different year, and other "not your year" folks have some tremendous depth that can help in many situations. 2. 1959-1975 are virtually the same car when it comes to the engine and transmission. So too with many other eras that don't look the same on the outside. How-to-Divide?????: by body? by VIN? by engine size? by air-filter application? Not as easy as it sounds. Stuff works as it is right now... 3. Scanning the posts before reading and deleting the ones that you don't want to read saves tremendous time, and if you're not doing this, you're probably reading some stuff that isn't worth the energy, but that's your choice. 4. We have a "Digest" version that collapses messages into a tighter format - see club website where you signed on to get that. 5. Unlike so many other places, there is a sense (to me, anyway) of human community here. Text-based, impersonal email as a medium is tough enough to deal with. I have derived tremendous benefit from reading posts from Jim Martin (1939), Dick Benjamin (1967/68, 1982), Brad Hogg (1976-78, 1990, 1951), and all sorts of other folks that have really worthwhile knowledge to share. They would not be accessible to me if I were just on a 1960-63 list. 6. It's always OK to voice suggestions here. One of the problems that I have with some suggestions, and I'm speaking very generally, and not to Jesse in particular, is that this place is both free of charge and already actively managed by volunteers that have committed to hundreds or thousands of personal hours of work each for our common benefit. Some folks actually don't delete anything - they've chosen to read everything and keep an eye open for monkey business so that the rest of us don't have to! And they do it for FREE on a volunteer basis. That's a good thing in my book, and worth more mention than it gets here in my opinion. -We've been around for about 10 years now, and major format changes just aren't in the cards, considering that the system already works and that it's manned by occasionally grouchy people who take suggestions like that as uninformed about what's going on behind the scenes. We aren't other places, and other places aren't us. Most of the work is done out of sight - we don't admonish anyone in public (ever seen anyone get hollered at regarding "mistakes"/notice that things run smoothly and folks play by the rules/don't make "mistakes" more than once, usually?), and each time that you see a new member added, remember that they were screened by hand, and there is manual processing being done all the time alongside the automated process, unlike some of the other places on the web that are all business and not very personal at all. If you, dear reader, would like to see change, please join the volunteer group, help manage this 700+ person list from the inside, and learn what is involved in running what we already have going. The energy spent sifting seems to be worth the time, based on the relatively constant 600-700 person membership, despite people coming and going as they see fit. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. 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