Re: RE: IML: eBay

[<jlandis81044@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

HI FOLKS,
I JUST WANTED TO PUT IN MY COMMENT ABOUT EBAY AND THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING SCAMMED.
     IN NOV. OF LAST YEAR, I BOUGHT MY '81 IMP. FS FROM A FELLOW 200 MILES AWAY. I WAS THE ONLY BIDDER, AND FRANKLY, I WAS SCARED! I HAVE BOUGHT ALMOST 100 ITEMS ON EBAY, BUT THIS WAS THE BIGGEST AND I KNEW I COULD BE RIPPED OFF. I PUT MY BID IN IN THE LAST FEW SECONDS AND , QUITE FRANKLY, HOPED SOMEONE ELSE WOULD OUTBID ME---   NOPE, I WAS THE WINNER AND AM VERY HAPPY WITH MY PURCHASE. I ALSO SPOKE TO THE OWNER SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE I PUT MY BID IN.
     NOW HERE IS THE WARNING I WILL GIVE TO ALL WHO WOULD BUY A BIG TICKET ITEM ON EBAY.
     AT THE SAME TIME I WAS BIDDING AND BUYING MY CAR, MY BROTHER WAS ALSO TRYING TO BUY A CAR ON EBAY-- A MERCEDES DIESEL WAGON --- FOR $4000.00. HE WAS OUTBID AND THOUGHT ALL WAS LOST, HOWEVER, RIGHT AFTER THE END OF THE AUCTION, HE RECEIVED A "2ND CHANCE" NOTICE. THE PURCHASER  HAD FAILED TO CONCLUDE THE TRANSACTION.
OF COURSE, MY BROTHER WAS VERY HAPPY, AND IMMEDIATELY AGREED TO BUY THE CAR AT HIS BID, WHICH , BECAUSE IT WAS A "2ND CHANCE:" BID EVEN INCLUDED SHIPPING!
     THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN A MOMENT, BUT OVER A PERIOD OF SEVERAL DAYS.
HE FINALLY AGREED TO WIRE THE MONEY VIA WESTERN UNION AND DID SO. WESTERN UNION VIDEOTAPES THE RECEIPT OF MONEY BY THE PERSON RECEIVING IT, BUT ONLY KEEPS THE TAPES FOR A SHORT PERIOD, AND WILL ONLY ALLOW THE POLICE TO VIEW THEM IN CASE OF A PROBLEM.
     WELL, THERE WAS A PROBLEM AND IT WAS THIS---MY BROTHER WAS SCAMMED BY THE PERSON OFFERING THE "2ND CHANCE"!!!!! HE WANTED THE CAR, SENT THE MONEY, AND AFTER A FEW DAYS TRIED TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND THE REST IS HISTORY.
     WHEN THE CAR WAS ORIGINALLY LISTED, IT WAS IN THE NORTHEAST U.S. WHEN IT WAS 2ND CHANCED AND HE SENT THE MONEY, IT MAGICALLY WENT TO LAS VEGAS. THE LAS VEGAS POLICE WERE NOT INTERESTED IN THE SCAM, SO HE CALLED THE F.B.I. THEY REFERRED HIM BACK TO THE LAS VEGAS POLICE DEPT. ONLINE SCAM DIVISION ( OR SOME OTHER EQUALLY NAMED DIVISION) AND, TO THIS DAY, 6 MONTHS LATER, IT APPEARS THAT ORGANIZED CRIME HAS MADE OFF WITH HIS $4000! HE HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY PHONE CALLS FROM ANYBODY AND NOW CONSIDERS IT A LESSON LEARNED!!
     SO, I WOULD SAY TO THE READER, "LET THE BUYER BEWARE"--"THE ENEMY SNEAKS AROUND LIKE A ROARING LION, SEEKING WHOM HE MAY DEVOUR".
     WE ARE VERY SAD THAT THIS HAPPENED, AND BY THE WAY , EBAY HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RECORD OF THE LISTING OR THE TRANSACTION, AND CONSIDERS THAT IT DID NOT HAPPEN!!!
BEFORE YOU BUY ON EBAY (AND I REALLY LIKE EBAY AND ENJOY USING IT), PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THEY CANNOT DO MUCH IF YOU ARE SCAMMED.
     I HAVE ONLY HAD 1 BAD EXPERIENCE ON EBAY, AND AS I SAW IT GOING BAD, I MADE IT HAPPEN AND HAVE THE ITEM IN MY POSSESSION NOW---AND I WENT 250 MILES TO GET IT!!
CRIMINALS ARE EVERYWHERE AND ARE SMARTER AND SLICKER THAN THE POLICE. WE DON'T THINK OF CRIMINALS AS SMART ENOUGH TO MANIPULATE COMPANIES, BUT, THEY ARE THE DEFINITION OF "SMART"!!! IT'S THEIR JOB AND THEY DO IT WELL.---  AT THE EXPENSE OF HARD WORKING PEOPLE IN ALL RANKS OF LIFE.

JERRY LANDIS
 
> 
> From: "Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2006/04/06 Thu PM 01:01:50 EDT
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: IML: eBay
> 
> Sure, Fredrick,  they are out there, lying in wait for the people who don't
> bother to check - we all know there are many dishonest people in the world -
> my message was that most folks ARE honest - sloppy or dumb sometimes, but
> usually not out to take advantage of you. 
> 
>  
> 
>  Don't shoot the messenger - eBay has no way to know if a person is telling
> the truth or not - other than folks like yourselves posting feedback about
> transactions. 
> 
>  
> 
>  Since you didn't do a transaction with the seller, you didn't get a chance
> to post a comment about him, but when you do, please use the feedback system
> - it is what keeps the system honest for the rest of us!  In my 350 or so
> transactions, only about half of the people have bothered - and it's a
> shame.
> 
>  
> 
> -         check my feedback out if you wish - at: 
> 
>  
> 
> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback
> <http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=socalcarnut>
> &userid=socalcarnut
> 
>  
> 
> By putting in the user's ID name, you can check anyone out easily.
> 
>  
> 
> Dick Benjamin (socalcarnut on eBay)
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: Frederick Joslin
> Subject: Re: IML: eBay
> 
>  
> 
> Last december a 1968 Imperial came up for sale on ebay. It was in Spokane
> where I live so I went to have a look at it. The car had been hit on both
> sides with the passenger front door needing replacing and the rear quarter
> panel needing replacing. No mention of this damage was made in the ebay add.
> There was a picture of a replacement door that the owner had, but not that
> it needed to be used. The door was the least of the problem since the rear
> quarter needed to be replaced and the damage extended around the corner to
> the rear tail light assembly. Other that this damage, the car seemed to be
> in quite nice condition with little to no rust although it was in a very
> tight garage and was difficult to see.
> 
> This was my only experience with a car on ebay and I would say that it was
> negative. The car was not described appropriately, verbally or with
> pictures. 
> 
> FYI, this car or another 1968 Imperial was in the paper last weekend
> (Spokesman Review) here priced at $1600 and listed as "runs". I could find
> the phone number if anyone is interested.       
> 
> 
> 



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