Re: IML: Smog test and historical plates in Californis

[Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Bob,

You didn't need to get any 1967 car smogged in CA in 1994. My Imperial is a
1967 model with regular black plates and it didn't need one then either.

Your car was eligible for historical plates because it was 25 years old.

At the time, it was also exempt from Smog Check for the same reason: because
it was 25 years old (not because it had historical plates).

Regards,
Chris in LA


On 10/28/05 9:38 AM, Bob Smith at limoguy1950@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

> When I had my Barracuda licensed with historical plates, it was in 1994 and a
> smog certification was not required.  Otherwise, there would be no advantage
> to getting historical plates, especially since it was a one time charge of $25
> and a yearly fee, just like non historical registration.  The law might have
> been changed since that time but that was my reason for plating it so.
>  
> 
> An interesting sideline joke was that when I went to the Banning DMV, the
> clerk didn't seem to know anything about historical plates so she called her
> supervisor.  He glanced at the title and said 'but the car has to be 25 years
> old.'  I said 'look again at the title, then do the math.  It's 27 years old.
> With a sheepish grin, he told the clerk to go ahead and process it.
> 
>  
> 
> I still have the plate.
> 
>  
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I am not aware of any CA law that allows a car to be exempt from smog
>> certification because it has historical plates.
>> 
>> No smog check is required for cars from 1975 or older. This is no longer a
>> rolling "25 years old"... for now, it is stuck at 1975. But that is why
>> Bob's '67 Barracuda was exempt. It had nothing to do with his antique
>> license plates, except that being 25 years old made the car eligible for
>> both the plates and the smog exemption.
>> 
>> According to the California DMV, "historical plates are issued, upon
>> request, for motor vehicles manufactured after 1922 which are at least 25
>> years old and of historic interest." The vehicle is, according to the
>> vehicle code, of historic interest if "it is collected, restored,
>> maintained, and operated by a collector or hobbyist principally for purposes
>> of exhibition and historic vehicle club activities."
>> 
>> Therefore, it would seem that a car built between 1976 and 1980 is eligible
>> for historical plates but still required to pass Smog Check. And that
>> "non-parade" use is OK for maintenance drives and such but that using one
>> for a daily driver is not actually allowed, so do so at your own risk!
>> 
>> FYI, I successfully reattached the original black plates to my '67 Imperial
>> after it had been re-plated no fewer than three times. Thankfully, I had
>> original registrations proving these were the original plate number, the car
>> has never left CA, and I am only the second owner.
>> 
>> Chris in LA
>> 67 Crown
>> 78 NYB Salon
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/27/05 2:27 PM, Bob Smith at limoguy1950@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm unfamiliar with "antique" plates in California (but I'm sure there are
>>> more than a few that are familiar with them); however, I had Historical
>>> plates
>>> put on my 1967 Barracuda convertible. It was an out of state car but did
>>> have
>>> California plates on it. Historical plates can be issued for any car that is
>>> 25 or more years old and cost an up-front fee of $25.
>>> 
>>> There are some limitations on the use; you are supposed to drive it only to
>>> and from car shows, auto related activities, etc. but as a practical matter,
>>> knowing the low level of police enforcement of DMV rules (such as 72 hour
>>> parking restrictions), I drove mine any time and any place for over 7 years
>>> and never once was stopped.
>>> An additional advantage is that you do not need to get those pesky emissions
>>> tests every 2 years which are nearly impossible for older cars to meet when
>>> they are not driven regularly.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> dansgarage@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>> Hi All....I guess this question is for those members in
>>>> California.....being
>>>> relatively new here, can someone tell me if there is such a thing in CA as
>>>> "antique" plates ? and if so, how old the vehicle has to be to qualify?
>>>> back
>>>> in NJ I didn't have to get the car inspected and only paid Registration
>>>> every
>>>> 4 years, also any car over 25 years old was considered a "antique" and got
>>>> special consideration, special rates. etc.....anyone who has experience
>>>> here
>>>> in California with registering a 1966 Imperial PLEASE email me
>>>> (dansgarage@xxxxxxxxxxxx) so I can at least go into the DMV with some
>>>> understanding as to how they are going to mess things up before hand.
>>>> Thanks all!!!!
>>>> Dan Melnik
>>>> 
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