IML: scammers - to Loyal and Teresa

["Kate Triplett" <ad_ablurr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

<<<SNIP>From: "Chad & Teresa Smith"
Subject: Re: IML: Thread about overseas buyers
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:49:11 -0700
Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I have a car that I will be running for sale.  I was just wondering what the
point of these fake buyer emails is?  What is their angle?  I am probably
just completely naive, but I don't understand.

Thanks in advance.

Teresa Smith

>From: Loyal E Stern
>Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: IML: Thread about overseas buyers
>Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:01:00 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I thought that i was being helpful by alerting the
>group of this, but i guess i was wrong. I wont bother
>informing others with information on suspicious
>activities that involve the sale of car or parts on
>here again.
>
>Regards,
>Loyal Stern <<<SNIP>>>>>>>

FIRST - Loyal, I appreciated your thought, even if you managed to offend a few. Been there, and done that - AND I have the tee shirt.

SECOND - Teresa, these knotheads that send the ridiculous offers are trying to MAKE MONEY from the unsuspecting. The mere fact that you don't know what they are up to tells me there are still lots of people out there who might be taken in by their "offers".

The scam usually follows  a pattern of:
Offer to buy, usually in extremely poor English, and almost always using one or several catch phrases in common - "last best price", etc. They will send you a cashiers check - but their "previous offer to another seller was more, so the cashiers check is in excess" usually by a large dollar amount. They insist that you will "immediately upon receipt" refund the overage - THAT'S how they get the money - and they demand that you use Western Union or similar untraceable and unretreivable means to send THEM the money.

When I offered Lucille for sale, I got TONS of these dinks sending me all sorts of wierd offers. I got a couple that were so insistent in their pestering that I finally got rather rude (for me) and told them to pay up or shut up - just send the money, and I would prep the car for pickup by their shipping company. These people actually sent "cashiers checks" - from Great Britain addresses - that were supposedly drawn on banks in the USA (which I could not find, BTW). Once the "money" was here, they only continued a little while longer.

THe kicker to this is that if you (the intended victim) did deposit one of their phony checks, YOU are responsible for the monetary value - if you did as they ask, and immediately cut them a check for the overage amount, YOUR money is gone for good, and their check (bogus) will of course bounce and leave you with a big old hole in your finances. You are also criminally liable for the phony funds - and CAN be prosecuted for depositing the phony check!!! THere have been people damaged badlly by these scammers, and I sincerely hope none of our OIC family is ever among that number.

Kate Justet Triplett
Kate's Custom Gunleather
Monroe, Washington
Proud mother of a soldier
and owner of "Lucille" 1968 Crown 


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