Re: IML: 1960 electrical problems horns and lights

["jsadowski" <jsadowski@xxxxxxx>]

Check the wiring at the turn signal canceling switch way down on the 
steering column. Also, check at the high beam switch. I had problems with 
both.
John
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From: <RandalPark@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 1960 electrical problems horns and lights


> The turn signal switch isn't that difficult to change. The speedometer has 
> to come out, but it is much easier to remove than the gauge cluster. The 
> hard part would be to find a good switch. If you have a parts car, that 
> would be worth a try to see if it corrected your problem. I didn't notice 
> in your post whether you changed your brake light switch. If you haven't, 
> you should. It is hydraulic and does give trouble. It is also simple to 
> change and also very available. You probably checked your fuses. If you 
> haven't, you should. Often, if you blow a fuse while tinkering, it makes 
> more than one thing quit at the same time. It has been too long since I 
> worked very much on my '60 to be very specific about any of this, but I 
> hope it is helpful.
>
> I have had the horn blowing when turning the wheel syndrome. It has 
> happened twice. Both times were when I wasn't wanting to call attention to 
> myself. Imagine driving a '60 Imperial and not wanting to call attention 
> to oneself! Having the horn blow repeatedly while I was turning the wheel 
> got everyone's attention  and it was very embarassing. The rest of the 
> time the horn has worked fine.
>
> Paul
>
> In an email dated Fri, 18 3 2005 1:36:23 pm GMT, richard burgess 
> <lecrown60@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > Hi Group,
> >
> > Hope some of you have some advice on my electrical woes. My 1960 LeBaron 
> > is giving me fits.
> >
> > My brake lights were working intermitantly and have now stopped working 
> > entirely. I have headlights, front park lights, tail lights, and back up 
> > lights. No turn signal and no brake lights. My rear harness is fine, 
> > cleaned all bulb connections and checked wiring. The power is not coming 
> > through at the connector at the left front kick panel. This connector to 
> > the rear harness has three wires. B-2/D-7/D-8 in the wiring diagram. The 
> > white wire (B-2) is the back up lamps, I get power when the car is in 
> > reverse on the selector. I am not getting power to the green and brown 
> > wires. These wires (according to the wiring diagrams) go to the turn 
> > signal switch which is totally inaccessible without pulling dash guages. I 
> > do have new connectors at the brake switch, and new switch, at the new 
> > master brake cylinder. I am getting power at that point. I am now lost as 
> > to what to try next.
> >
> > My horns stopped working a while back and I determined the ground wire was 
> > broken at the steering column. It also had a flat spot on the brass 
> > roller. I replaced the whole switch with one from a parts car that had 
> > good wires and roller. I was getting sporadic horn play and now when I 
> > turn the wheel right, the horn honks, turn the wheel left, the horn honks. 
> > Cute huh? From under the dash I can see the horn ground engaging when the 
> > wheel gets to a certain left and right location. I guess instead of having 
> > turn signal lights I have horn indicators. I unplugged the wire. I 
> > innitialy thought the problem was in the steering wheel since it would 
> > only honk/respond when you pressed the left side of the ring. Cleaned all 
> > the metal surfaces in the wheel and again swapped out the parts for nicer 
> > ones and was still only getting response on the left side. My big question 
> > is why does the ground involve this roller mechanism? What on earth does 
> > the position of the wheel have to do with
> > the horn honking???????? What now?
> >
> > The brake lights are my real problem as this car is hard enough to drive 
> > with both hands. Having one out window doing hand signals is dangerous for 
> > me and I think everyone else on the road has forgotten what they mean 
> > anyway.
> >
> > Richard Burgess
> > '60 LeBaron Sedan
> > '60 Crown Sedan, (comes back from the bodyshop next weekend!)
> >
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