I believe you are completely correct. The NYBs got lighter with each year of production with very little changing on the outside. All the screws, clips and fasteners in a Imperial or NYB weigh alot so if you just cut down on those, you're going to save on production costs. I've noticed there are a number of brackets and braces that are missing on the later cars as well, just more stuff to save money on. Please quote this message in your reply. Otherwise I will be unable to reply to your message. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: MNTwin1@xxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:07 PM Subject: Re: IML: Quality I agree with Chris on the various quality points he makes. I love my 68 Crown Coupe because it is a solid tight driving car. It has great comfort and is one of the best running drive trains I have ever know. In 2000 I refinished all of the bronze trim inside the car. It is amazing what detail was put into the interior details. If you look really close to the metal surfaces inside the 68 Crown you will see that some are polished and some are brushed. The bronze trim applique is nestled in a chrome piece that has a brushed face and a polished edge. I dare say no one today puts that much detail into any trim component. May years ago my brother and I did the big nasty to my rusted out old 75 Imperial and a 77 NYB that was also decaying from rust. As we prepared the two cars side by side for their ultimate destruction it was readily apparent that the Imperial had considerably more interior sound deadening material. Going further we also found that components that you would have thought would be the same were definitely different (e.g. seat motors). The Imperial also had more hardware throughout (such as screws and clips). Now Mother may have been getting more efficient in building cars, but I would concur that the extra stuff made the Imperial a better built car. None of this stuff would have been readily apparent to the person purchasing the car. Its not until years down the road when a car starts to show its age, or dare I say, doesn't show its age that the extra bits show their true value. I had an uncle who used to be a liquor distributor. He always said, if you're going to drink, drink the best. I apply that same thought to my cars. I will always buy as high up the quality ladder as my budget will allow. Generally I will take an Imperial over a NYB almost any day of the week. There are exceptions, but I truly believe that having the premium car will give you more driving satisfaction. Just my thought for the day. Happy motoring. Dale 68 Crown Coupe 60 New Yorker (2 door, sedan, T&C wagon - nearly an Imperial!) ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm