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carguyjoe
Posted 2025-08-08 2:06 PM (#641126)
Subject: 1958 Decoding - Trim & Engine



I got my build card from Danielle today. Very excited.

My car was originally a Raven Black convertible with a white top, built on May 1, 1958 and sold by Clift Motor Co in Hellertown, PA.

Two questions:

  1. What is Trim Code 213 on a '58 Belvedere?
  2. How do I tell which engine I originally had without a data plate? It's not listed anywhere on the card.


Thanks!





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56D500boy
Posted 2025-08-08 3:12 PM (#641128 - in reply to #641126)
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Well at this point, you don't have to worry about having a "numbers matching" car. You could select any or these
options.

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frwl
Posted 2025-08-08 3:15 PM (#641129 - in reply to #641126)
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Hello,

The trim 213 is Red Vinyl Bolster and Black “Woven Aire” Ventilating Vinyl Seat;
It was optional trim for Belvedere Convertible and Custom Suburbans only;
You can see it here, on the forum, on the second picture in the lower row:

http://www.forwardlook.net/19571958Plymouth/58PlymouthOrderSheets.h...




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carguyjoe
Posted 2025-08-08 3:22 PM (#641130 - in reply to #641129)
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THANK YOU!!!
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frwl
Posted 2025-08-08 3:23 PM (#641131 - in reply to #641126)
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There are four engine codes offered for ’58 Plymouth:

370 - ENGINE – Dual Exhaust
372 - ENGINE – Dual Exhaust – 318CID 4BBL – Power Package
374 - ENGINE – Dual Exhaust – 350CID 2/4BBL
375 - ENGINE – Dual Exhaust – 350CID Fuel Injection

Fury models only had dual exhaust 370 as standard equipment…

Your car has NO any 37x codes, so I think it rolled off assemble line equipped with standard V8 318 2bbl 225hp engine…
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frwl
Posted 2025-08-08 3:26 PM (#641132 - in reply to #641126)
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from Ross Roy Data Book (reprint from the net)



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frwl
Posted 2025-08-08 3:28 PM (#641133 - in reply to #641126)
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The trim 213 should be look like this:



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frwl
Posted 2025-08-08 3:40 PM (#641134 - in reply to #641126)
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Of course, you know readable optional codes on the card;
If you are interested, a can add that route code 07 means delivered by DEALER OWN TRUCK;

I guess, next “2” is an Accessory Group No. 312 (311 and 313 were standard on Belvederes):
- Back Up Lights
- Windshield Washer
- Variable Speed Windshield Wipers

Do you have these?

An the last: Do you know what the last “7” is mean?




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frwl
Posted 2025-08-08 3:59 PM (#641135 - in reply to #641126)
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For example, here shown another '58 Plymouth card, where its equipped with Power Pack 372:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=48155&...
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frwl
Posted 2025-08-08 4:00 PM (#641136 - in reply to #641126)
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Posted 2025-08-08 4:04 PM (#641137 - in reply to #641126)
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and this one Fury with 350 2/4BBL - order code 374:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=65449&...



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56D500boy
Posted 2025-08-08 4:49 PM (#641138 - in reply to #641131)
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frwl - 2025-08-08 12:23 PM
Your car has NO any 37x codes, so I think it rolled off assemble line equipped with standard V8 318 2bbl 225hp engine…


I agree that there are no punches in Column 37 and no printed numbers above any of the 37x boxes. That said, would
it not be possible or maybe likely that the base engine was the 6 cylinder, not the 2 bbl 318?

Or was the base engine for a convertible, the V8?

???
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56D500boy
Posted 2025-08-08 4:59 PM (#641139 - in reply to #641135)
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frwl - 2025-08-08 12:59 PM.
For example, here shown another '58 Plymouth card, where its equipped with Power Pack 372


For those engine codes to be real, there has to be a) a punch in column 37 and b) a number printed above one
of the 37x positions.

A punch above one of the 37x position is NOT indication of the engine, that punch belongs to something in columns 11 to 21 or so.

That 372 has a punch in position 2 in column 37 and "2" printed above the 372 box.



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frwl
Posted 2025-08-09 12:21 AM (#641143 - in reply to #641138)
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56D500boy - 2025-08-08 4:49 PM

frwl - 2025-08-08 12:23 PM
Your car has NO any 37x codes, so I think it rolled off assemble line equipped with standard V8 318 2bbl 225hp engine…


I agree that there are no punches in Column 37 and no printed numbers above any of the 37x boxes. That said, would
it not be possible or maybe likely that the base engine was the 6 cylinder, not the 2 bbl 318?

Or was the base engine for a convertible, the V8?

???


Build card says body code 255, where first "2" means the engine: 1 - L6, 2 - V8;
Besides that, there were NO L6 Belvedere Convertibles...



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frwl
Posted 2025-08-09 12:28 AM (#641144 - in reply to #641139)
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56D500boy - 2025-08-08 4:59 PM

frwl - 2025-08-08 12:59 PM.
For example, here shown another '58 Plymouth card, where its equipped with Power Pack 372



That 372 has a punch in position 2 in column 37 and "2" printed above the 372 box.

:)


That's true, Sir!



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