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Location: N.W. Fla. | Got upper A arm bushings from Rock Auto. Found a machine shop to do the swap. They took out the old ones & then discovered that the new ones were too big. Old ones have an O.D. of 15/16, the ones RA sent are 1 1/8th. Unless the factory mis-boxed, the parts I got what was supposed to fit. Dorman BC810149PR does anyone know if this is right size for the part number? mis-boxed? Leaves me dangling as to how to solve this. In my original search a parts house had them but the price for 1 was as much as for all 8 from RA. Plus if a mis-box how large is the problem...... |
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Location: So. Cal | The Chrysler/DeSoto use a larger bushing than Dodge/Plymouth. It sounds like you got the wrong part. |
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Location: Chestertown, NY ( near Lake George) | Try this. https://www.facebook.com/PerformanceSuspensionTech/ |
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Location: northern germany | Powerflite - 2024-07-01 4:26 PM
The Chrysler/DeSoto use a larger bushing than Dodge/Plymouth. It sounds like you got the wrong part.
Maybe the 126" wb Chryslers, not the 122" wb Chryslers and all 60/61 Desotos used the same size as Plymouth and Dodge in 1960/61 too. |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | All the refs seem to show the Dorman part as being right. I'll call them tomorrow. |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | Dorman said they don't have one that's 15/16 O.D. The other dimensions are I.D. of 13mm & 60 mm width. Now what?? |
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I believe the OE part number (PN) is 1825 317. A quick google on "1825317 Upper Bushing" shows up some NOS and aftermarket (TRW and Moog) options.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=1825317+Upper+bus...
Rock Auto shows two options for 1825317
https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=1825317
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Location: northern germany | Mopar1 - 2024-07-02 10:32 AM
Dorman said they don't have one that's 15/16 O.D. The other dimensions are I.D. of 13mm & 60 mm width. Now what??
IIrc the outside diameter is 7/8", not 15/16". You can very easily make your own poly bushings using readily available leaf spring shackle bushings. That's what I did. That way you can leave the outer shell in the control arm. |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | Didn't see the last 2 posts before I ordered from Bernbaum at work today. We'll see how this works out. |
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Location: northern germany | Bernbaum should be allright......unless it's run by someone else now, which is very possible by now. Ordered from him in the 80s |
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Location: Chestertown, NY ( near Lake George) | The new person running Birnbaum seems ok. |
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Location: northern germany | Outer diameter of the upper bushings for all 118" and 122" WB 60/61 Mopars is 1.1/8" |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | 1960fury - 2024-07-03 6:51 PM
Outer diameter of the upper bushings for all 118" and 122" WB 60/61 Mopars is 1.1/8" Apparently mine is 15/16. One is original & one is a replacement from Big M. |
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Location: northern germany | Mopar1 - 2024-07-04 10:58 AM
1960fury - 2024-07-03 6:51 PM
Outer diameter of the upper bushings for all 118" and 122" WB 60/61 Mopars is 1.1/8" Apparently mine is 15/16. One is original & one is a replacement from Big M.
You mean the outer shell, or the inside diameter of the hole in the control arm? If so, you UCAs are not OE anymore.
Just checked my 60 Fury, 60 Adventurer, 61 Fury and 59 Fury, all use the same type of bushings 1.1/8" outside diameter. The inside diameter of the outer shell is eyactly one inch.
Here is the key for an easy switch to POLY bushings. Go this route, you won't regret it.
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Location: N.W. Fla. | 1960fury - 2024-07-04 10:36 AM
Mopar1 - 2024-07-04 10:58 AM
1960fury - 2024-07-03 6:51 PM
Outer diameter of the upper bushings for all 118" and 122" WB 60/61 Mopars is 1.1/8" Apparently mine is 15/16. One is original & one is a replacement from Big M.
You mean the outer shell, or the inside diameter of the hole in the control arm? If so, you UCAs are not OE anymore.
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Location: northern germany | Mopar1 - 2024-07-04 11:44 AM
1960fury - 2024-07-04 10:36 AM
Mopar1 - 2024-07-04 10:58 AM
1960fury - 2024-07-03 6:51 PM
Outer diameter of the upper bushings for all 118" and 122" WB 60/61 Mopars is 1.1/8" Apparently mine is 15/16. One is original & one is a replacement from Big M.
You mean the outer shell, or the inside diameter of the hole in the control arm? If so, you UCAs are not OE anymore. They ae original.. Dimensions are from the machine shop guy so I believe O.D. of the bushings.
Yeah, believe the machine shop guy and not someone who has 4 of these cars in the driveway and who restored these cars for 36 years..... good luck  |
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Location: northern germany | in case you didn't read it:
Just checked my 60 Fury, 60 Adventurer, 61 Fury and 59 Fury, all use the same type of bushings 1.1/8" outside diameter. The inside diameter of the outer shell is eyactly one inch.
Here is the key for an easy switch to POLY bushings. Go this route, you won't regret it. |
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Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | 1'' dia. poly... https://www.ebay.com/itm/386851575157?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid...
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.56
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Polyurethane bushing set for Chrysler-type rear leaf spring eye. Accepts a 9/16" bolt. Overall length is 1-3/8" including the shoulder, which is 3/16".
One pair of these leaf spring bushings services one rear spring eye
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Location: N.W. Fla. | 1960fury - 2024-07-04 10:50 AM
Yeah, believe the machine shop guy and not someone who has 4 of these cars in the driveway and who restored these cars for 36 years..... good luck :) The machine shop is an hour away, he said the 1 1/8 won't fit. That's all I got to go on at this point. When they come in I'll be going over. |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | Went to the machine shop yesterday with the ones sent by Bernbaum. They fit, the ones that were supposed to fit are too big. It has since occurred to me that both A Arms are from Big M. |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | What is the torque on the bushing bolts? |
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Location: Lower Mainland BC | Mopar1 - 2024-07-13 7:44 PM
What is the torque on the bushing bolts?
Should be in the factory service manual like these ones.
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Location: N.W. Fla. | OK, you guys win! Big M sent the wrong A Arms. John has sent the right ones so I'll be getting back to making progress. |
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