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ttotired
Posted 2023-02-23 4:52 PM (#627789)
Subject: 1960 Dodge phoenix Convertible



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https://www.justcars.com.au/cars-for-sale/1960-dodge-phoenix-3-sp-au...

Found this for sale in NSW for $39000

Needs some work but looked pretty good

There is a Utube of it here https://youtu.be/KFcgWN8s9LI

Vin does not seen correct, but it is the one its licenced with





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Ray Bell
Posted 2023-03-23 6:59 AM (#628452 - in reply to #627789)
Subject: Re: 1960 Dodge phoenix Convertible



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That's probably the one that's lived in Lockington for years...

Does this mean that the old bloke has died and stuff has been sold off?
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ttotired
Posted 2023-03-23 4:42 PM (#628463 - in reply to #627789)
Subject: Re: 1960 Dodge phoenix Convertible



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I dont know, but I did contact the seller to ask about the VIN discrepancy, I dont think they wanted to know.

I think it would be a great car but I have to say, I would always be worried about its heritage because of the VIN.

I do wonder if there would be any way to find out the original number. My assumption is the tag got lost and replaced in the US and someone just put
the senaca tag on so it had a number to put on the paperwork before it was shipped over here. Pure speculation though.

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60 dart
Posted 2023-03-23 5:26 PM (#628464 - in reply to #627789)
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seneca 6 , Vehicle Number 410 ---------------------------------later
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Ray Bell
Posted 2023-03-24 3:52 AM (#628472 - in reply to #627789)
Subject: Re: 1960 Dodge phoenix Convertible



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The old bloke told me he bought it in Phoenix AZ, I don't know exactly when...

But he'd had it a long time when I met him about twenty years ago.
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Ray Bell
Posted 2023-03-24 3:53 AM (#628473 - in reply to #627789)
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What, by the way, is the VIN discrepancy?
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60 dart
Posted 2023-03-24 3:58 AM (#628474 - in reply to #628473)
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Ray Bell - 2023-03-24 3:53 AM

What, by the way, is the VIN discrepancy?




with a 410 vin# its not a true phoenix , no matter what the body is . in other words its a phoenix with a seneca vin tag ---------------------------------later
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ttotired
Posted 2023-03-24 5:21 PM (#628493 - in reply to #627789)
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Senaca VIN. I dont believe they made a senaca convertible.

The data tag looks to be correct, so I just suspect the Vin tag fell off and someone put the senaca one on.

I can imagine the hoops you would go through to try and change it if you found out the original number.

It could also have been re birthed before it came to Australia as I assume the number change would have happened before it was imported.

4 = Dodge 6
1 = Low line (Senaca)
0 = 1960
7 = St. Louis (MO)

So not correct for this car. Unless you found a build sheet stashed in it somewhere, I dont think it would be possible to find its factory number

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60 dart
Posted 2023-03-24 5:53 PM (#628494 - in reply to #627789)
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one might make an argument , its a phoenix clone--------------------------------later
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Posted 2023-03-24 6:16 PM (#628496 - in reply to #627789)
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You may be right, Chuck. This could have started life as a Seneca coupe, and converted into a convertible.
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ttotired
Posted 2023-03-25 4:58 PM (#628527 - in reply to #627789)
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That would be a big job and very well done

To be honest, I think very unlikely. The car does look completely factory.

Not hard to change a VIN tag

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ABloch
Posted 2023-03-25 8:17 PM (#628533 - in reply to #627789)
Subject: Re: 1960 Dodge phoenix Convertible



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Phoenix, huh? Isn't that where Don Petty lives? He may have built this for a customer.
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