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| Hello ! I'm currently in the market for a MoPar fin car, and hope this is the right place to ask some questions concerning the originality of such vehicles. First of all, a question about door latches and strikers: were they originally painted same color as the door jambs, Zink plated, or had any other type of finish ? What about the screws that hold the latches ? One of the cars that I have interest in is a metallic green '57 Desoto Firesweep 2dr HT, which is... sufficiently DeLovely... for my taste ) The paint is old on this one, but looks like an older respray to me, because the door latches, strikers and some rubber plugs on door edges are painted body color (see picture). But maybe I'm wrong and that is how these cars came from factory ? The seller doesn't claim the paint to be original, but also doesn't state otherwise explicitly. The information I could find so far is mutually contradicting - many restored cars have painted door lathes, but others seem to use Zink plating type finish on those parts. Also, should the dashboard be painted body color, period, or it could use a diffrent type of paint from factory (e.g. - was painted separately from the body) ? On the car I've mentioned, the body is metallic green (incl. door jambs and all; seller claims it is Tamarack Green), but the face of the dashboard is non-metallic green of a much lighter shade (seems to be the case on other similar cars, as well). Second question, on a '57 Dodge, what color the dashboard was typically painted ? I've found many cars with beige dashboards, either with black lower edge, or completely painted beige (picture no. 2). Sometimes nothing else is beige one these cars, either exterior or interior. Was beige used as some kind of "one color fits all" finish to streamline aseembly line production etc., or this is just sloppy restoration with no regard to the original color scheme ? Also, what types of pedals were used on '57 Dodges ? The car in my second picture seems to have what I think to be Plymouth pedals used with power brakes (the rubber pads are covered in circular "bumps"). I've also seen some cars with a radically different rubber pads featuring a more complex "ribbed" design. Which type is correct for a '57 Dodge - first, second, or maybe both ? Edited by S. Bauer 2022-08-31 2:51 AM (298644541_8191165637621183_1056314352904395487_n.jpg) (74707_b4jkj9ila4ha0nd1aoakjstf9m_1620321073_2.jpg) Attachments ----------------  298644541_8191165637621183_1056314352904395487_n.jpg (94KB - 48 downloads) 74707_b4jkj9ila4ha0nd1aoakjstf9m_1620321073_2.jpg (259KB - 50 downloads) | |||
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Expert Posts: 3967  Location: DFW, TX | Welcome to the Forward Look!  Door hardware was painted body color at the factory for every original car I have ever seen. That would include latches, strikers, and screws - but not the rubber plugs in the door. However, this would have been at the discretion of the assembly plant. I would not bet against at least one instance of a FL Mopar car body being painted without its hardware and then those parts assembled later. They assembly line controls in those days were not the same as they are today. Some of your door plugs are painted body color and I would consider that a tip-off that it had been repainted; but it is unusual to see jambs and inner doors ever get repainted (unless there is a whole car color change involved). Dashboards were painted to be complimentary to the rest of the interior. The off-white and black dashboard you showed is absolutely typical of an original car, and several interior codes probably used that same dash paint combination. Interior and exterior colors are not the same. The factory had suggestions for dealers about which interior codes to order with certain exterior colors, but in those days you could order basically anything you were willing to pay for. As for the pedal pads, someone probably replaced those at some point. But again it's not out of the question that an assembly plant used whatever was available on-hand to get cars completed regardless if the part was "correct" for that specific make/model. You're asking the right questions, but Mopar was not always 100% consistent across makes built in separate assembly plants. For example, some '57 Desotos will have gray inner fenders, some black. Both are correct, it just depends on where it was built.  Have fun!Edited by 57burb 2022-08-31 12:36 PM | ||
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