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Plazaman
Posted 2022-08-18 3:58 PM (#623618)
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Does anyone know if anyone ever made a floor shifter for the Borg Warner 3-speed w/Overdrive?
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56D500boy
Posted 2022-08-18 4:12 PM (#623619 - in reply to #623618)
Subject: RE: Floor Shifter



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Plazaman - 2022-08-18 12:58 PM
Does anyone know if anyone ever made a floor shifter for the Borg Warner 3-speed w/Overdrive?


Interesting question. Because of the design of the pre-1961 Mopar three-on-the-tree linkages, with one lever up top and one on the side, it wasn't as easy to design a floor shifter as it was for a GM or Ford manual transmission.

The candidates for supply of a shifter would have obviously been Hurst and perhaps the boys at J.C.Whitney.

As for the overdrive, I believe that was a cable mechanism, independent of the mechanical 3 spd shifter.

Here is a photo of a non-overdrive 55-56 Mopar 3 spd manual:



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57chizler
Posted 2022-08-19 1:07 PM (#623636 - in reply to #623619)
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Some GM's also used the "selector" type 3-speed. I had a '54 Olds with one and I installed a Hurst floor shifter in it. The shift handle was spring-loaded to the right, when the shift handle was pulled to the left for 1st and Reverse, a lever in the shifter mechanism operated the selector lever. The Olds lever layout was different than the Mopar so I'm not sure if anybody made a floor shifter for it. An old JC Whitney or Honest Charlie catalog will tell.
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Plazaman
Posted 2022-08-19 8:14 PM (#623645 - in reply to #623618)
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56D500BOY, you are right about the OD being a cable. I have a shifter that is ancient and possibly homemade. It works but I'm just trying to find something better.
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58coupe
Posted 2022-08-20 11:56 AM (#623662 - in reply to #623618)
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Actually the Mopar 3 speed was changed for 57 and newer to 2 levers on the side, different than the 56 and older. I had a good quality floor shifter on my 57 Fury and it was secured to the trans. by the bolts that secured the tail housing to the main case, although I never tried, I believe it would have cleared an overdrive unit. I used a Borg Warner T-85 in my 58 Fury and had a Hurst shifter on it.
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57chizler
Posted 2022-08-20 5:46 PM (#623669 - in reply to #623662)
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58coupe - 2022-08-20 8:56 AM

Actually the Mopar 3 speed was changed for 57 and newer to 2 levers on the side, different than the 56 and older.


Yes, but the OP is asking about OD transmissions which weren't available after '56.
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58coupe
Posted 2022-08-21 12:05 PM (#623684 - in reply to #623618)
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According to my info OD was still available after 56 but only on 6 cyl or maybe small v-8 cars. Plymouth and Dodge only.
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56D500boy
Posted 2022-08-21 12:30 PM (#623686 - in reply to #623684)
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58coupe - 2022-08-21 9:05 AM
According to my info OD was still available after 56 but only on 6 cyl or maybe small v-8 cars. Plymouth and Dodge only.


55-56 for sure
57-58 yup, but it looks like only Plymouth
59 some (Plymouth)
60 tumbleweeds, crickets

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Plazaman
Posted 2022-08-22 9:41 AM (#623702 - in reply to #623618)
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57 Chizler: The shift handle was spring-loaded to the right, when the shift handle was pulled to the left for 1st and Reverse, a lever in the shifter mechanism operated the selector lever.

That is exactly the way my shifter is.....
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Viper Guy
Posted 2022-08-22 3:24 PM (#623711 - in reply to #623618)
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I got some kind of an aftermarket 3-speed floor shifter for my '56 Fury when I converted it from a Powerflite to a manual. Too far back to remember what brand it was or
where it came from but I do remember that when I installed it, it shifted backwards. Reverse was where low was supposed to be and second and third were backwards too.
My advantage as it made the shifts easier pulling to second from first rather than pushing through the "H" plus my "sweetie" could nestle next to me with the shifter in third
up closer to the dash.
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