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ToMopar
Posted 2022-06-10 6:15 AM (#622035)
Subject: Bugatti by Exner



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Did any of you know that Virgil Exner styled a bugatti after he was kicked out by chrysler.
I was last week in the Schlumpf Museum and this car showed a clear relationship to our favorites before I read the sign.

If anybody is interested: Musée National de l'Automobile - Collection Schlumpf (Mulhouse, Alsace, France)
https://www.visit.alsace/en/234010457-national-automobile-museum-sch...








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Posted 2022-06-10 8:33 AM (#622036 - in reply to #622035)
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Great pics.

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Posted 2022-06-10 11:41 AM (#622044 - in reply to #622035)
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The story of that car, built on Bugatti Type 101 chassis No. 101506, that had never previously been bodied, is told on pages 142-145 of Peter Grist's book "Virgil Exner - Visioneer".

The engine is a supercharged Bugatti straight 8. The body, etc. was made by Ghia, in payment for $27,000 that Ghia owed Exner for unpaid design consultancy fees.

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1960fury
Posted 2022-06-10 4:23 PM (#622052 - in reply to #622035)
Subject: RE: Bugatti by Exner



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ToMopar - 2022-06-10 6:15 AM

this car showed a clear relationship to our favorites before I read the sign.




Please explain, where does it show that? To me this is just another proof, that Exner was NOT responsible for the jet age design of 55-61 Mopars. As John Samson wrote, it was the Chrysler brass that wanted the Americana look with long overhangs front and rear and other things. Sorry, I say, our cars look great despite of Exner.

This got to be one of the ugliest man made things I ever saw.

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Posted 2022-06-10 4:50 PM (#622053 - in reply to #622052)
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ToMopar - 2022-06-10 6:15 AM

this car showed a clear relationship to our favorites before I read the sign.




Please explain, where does it show that? To me this is just another proof, that Exner was NOT responsible for the jet age design of 55-61 Mopars. As John Samson wrote, it was the Chrysler brass that wanted the Americana look with long overhangs front and rear and other things. Sorry, I say, our cars look great despite of Exner.

This got to be one of the ugliest man made things I ever saw. :wince:


They probably mean it looks a lot like other Ghia Chrysler concepts. I can certainly see that including some XNR influences as well as his later Stutz Blackhawk designs. I agree that it's not that attractive. Probably some choices were made because of the chassis and drivetrain that was used.

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1960fury
Posted 2022-06-10 7:37 PM (#622056 - in reply to #622035)
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lol I want to retrieve my statement, THAT is the ugliest thing I have ever seen! That rear view! The boxy, clumsy roof! That is gross and sure resembles that Bugatti abortion.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2022-06-10 9:01 PM (#622059 - in reply to #622056)
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I knew about the Stutz and the Duesenberg, but I hadn't heard of the Bugatti.





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Posted 2022-06-11 12:41 AM (#622063 - in reply to #622056)
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lol I want to retrieve my statement, THAT is the ugliest thing I have ever seen! That rear view! The boxy, clumsy roof! That is gross and sure resembles that Bugatti abortion.


Ha ha ha... They aren't much better looking in person. Especially when they've been pimped out with fur trim and gold emblems. If Exner was anything, he was persistent, trying to peddle his later weird ideas to anyone who would bite.
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1960fury
Posted 2022-06-11 12:00 PM (#622065 - in reply to #622063)
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It still needs those fake curved horseless carriage canopy ornaments on the C pillar Ford used in the 60s, yes, fur trim and gold is a must, with lots of baroque ornamentation.....



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Posted 2022-06-11 2:14 PM (#622067 - in reply to #622056)
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You nailed it Sid , this is the ugliest and most tasteless man made thing existing...it should be crushed immediately.
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Posted 2022-06-11 5:53 PM (#622068 - in reply to #622035)
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ugliest car ever...
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Posted 2022-06-12 3:22 AM (#622077 - in reply to #622035)
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he went off on the trying to include the long 30's limos into modern cars... it just didnt work... and he kept trying..

The bugatti is about the best attempt at it..

Trying to merge old and new...

I like the idea... but it doesnt work


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ToMopar
Posted 2022-06-13 5:08 AM (#622102 - in reply to #622052)
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1960fury - 2022-06-10 9:23 PM
Please explain, where does it show that? To me this is just another proof, that Exner was NOT responsible for the jet age design of 55-61 Mopars.


Believe it or not.


The post I've done just wanted to show that after Chrysler Exner undertook other activities.
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1960fury
Posted 2022-06-13 10:19 AM (#622105 - in reply to #622102)
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ToMopar - 2022-06-13 5:08 AM

1960fury - 2022-06-10 9:23 PM
Please explain, where does it show that? To me this is just another proof, that Exner was NOT responsible for the jet age design of 55-61 Mopars.


Believe it or not.


The post I've done just wanted to show that after Chrysler Exner undertook other activities.


Well, I believe that *YOU* see a "relationship".

I just ask you to explain WHERE you *think* is the "relationship" between that **** and FL cars. Elaborate please. There is none fortunately, other than the instruments that seem to resemble 57/58 Chrysler. Yet, I'm curios what made you post that.
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Posted 2022-06-23 11:36 AM (#622319 - in reply to #622105)
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Exner had this thing about "revival" cars, new cars with old styling. His designs were turned into model cars in the mid '60s. Google "Renwal Revival" and see more details.

I have to agree that Exner received a lot of accolades for the styling work done in his name. His own work and ideas were a bit clumsier than the FL Mopar designs.



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