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Powerflite
Posted 2020-10-11 1:18 PM (#604327)
Subject: 1957 New Yorker Sedan $17K



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Nice looking sedan here that can be had for a very reasonable price. No bids. On the other hand you can bid on a '71 240Z up to 105K on BAT now. With the same advertising a nice '58 Dodge 2drht only bid up to $8K. I don't get it. The world has gone crazy. Crap cars that aren't even worth driving are going for big bucks, but rare & beautiful cars are going dirt cheap. Maybe I should put a low mileage '89 Nissan Maxima on BAT to rake in the dough? That seems to be what people want these days.

https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1957-chrysler-new-yorker?utm_medium...

Dramatic finned lines and heavy doses of horsepower told the story at Chrysler during 1957, which saw the marque’s model lines receive all-new sheetmetal and the biggest-displacement production engine installed in any American automobile. The New Yorker was billed as Chrysler’s luxury leader, and like the rest of the line, New Yorkers rode on new torsion-bar suspension. This four-door New Yorker sedan is one of 12,369 that Chrysler produced in 1957. This example is described by the seller as having a 20-year-old repaint that is still presentable, and a more recent rechroming project, centering on its huge, complex bumper assemblies. The car’s interior, which is described as being in good shape, includes a desirable option, factory Airtemp air conditioning, which will need repair or recharging to return to functionality. This New Yorker is believed to be a two-owner car that has spent its entire life in Colorado, and is best characterized as a driver with some recent mechanical upgrades.

ENGINE/TRANSMISSION
The potent Chrysler first-generation Hemi V-8 saw its bore and stroke measurements both increased for 1957, which boosted its displacement by a full 10 percent, making it the largest American automobile engine produced that year. Fed by a single Carter WCFB four-barrel carburetor and factory-fitted with dual exhausts, the 392 Hemi had a compression ratio of 9.25:1, solid valve lifters and was rated at 325 horsepower. The engine’s rebuild status is unknown but it’s said to start reliably, with slight smoke visible before it warms up. The famed TorqueFlite automatic, first adopted in 1956, is controlled by a quintet of pushbuttons on the left side of the dashboard. Its rebuild status is also unknown but the seller reports that the transmission seems to change gears correctly, with no reported problems. The seller does note slight fluid weeping associated with the driveline. The engine bay presents as clean and factory stock, with no obvious evidence of either corrosion or fluid leaks.

EXTERIOR
The seller describes this New Yorker as being the recipient of an older restoration. The exact age of the restoration isn’t specified, but according to the seller, the paint is about 20 years old and still looks good. Two-tone color schemes were common among 1957 Chryslers. The bodywork includes a dent to one fender that was present before the car was repainted and not corrected. The seller reports slight rust in both rocker panels; corrosion can be spotted working its way through the paint just aft of the wheel openings on one front fender. The seller says that 19 bumper-related components received new chrome more recently. The brightwork on these huge parts, front and rear, looks to be in very good condition. Some visible signs of age, including faded or missing paint and light pitting, can be spotted on some of the car’s badges and scripts. No cracks are visible in any of the glass. All the exterior lights are said to function properly, including an added center-mounted rear brake lamp.

INTERIOR
This New Yorker sedan’s passenger cabin features gray vinyl seating and interior door panels with inserts fabricated from brocaded turquoise cloth. The facings are described by the seller as being in great shape and look to be in good condition, with no visible signs of excess wear or rips. The gray pile carpeting also appears to be in very good condition, with no wear holes or tears. The dashboard includes a full complement of engine gauges, a factory clock and a factory AM radio. All are said to work properly except for the fuel gauge, whose readings are described as inaccurate. Power steering was standard on the New Yorker line. Neither the Airtemp factory air conditioning nor the factory heater are presently functional. The headliner is reported to be in good shape, and the seller says that the interior seals and weatherstripping appear to be intact. Some paint appears to have worn off several of the pushbuttons that control the automatic transmission. Some scuffs are noted in the trunk, which has a carpeted floor and what appears to be the original factory jack.

CHASSIS, SUSPENSION AND BRAKES
The torsion-bar front suspension received new rubber bushings, ball joints and tie rod ends several years ago. The power steering does not leak and is said to track straight. No problems are reported regarding the shock absorbers. The steel disc wheels appear to be free of rash, the correct wheel covers are in acceptable condition with only minor visible blemishes, and the wide whitewall tires are said to have plenty of remaining tread.

DOCUMENTATION/OPTIONS/EXTRAS
This sale includes receipts for the new chrome and recent brake work. The New Yorker represented some of the best appointments that Chrysler could offer, balanced with Forward Look finned styling and substantial performance. This presentable sedan is characterized as a reliable, presentable way to take in all those attributes.



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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-10-11 8:22 PM (#604355 - in reply to #604327)
Subject: Re: 1957 New Yorker Sedan $17K



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Yeah,I agree with you,it’s nuts! That New Yoker is beautiful,it’s even got factory ac. The market is definitely shifting as the demographics change. “Classic” Japanese cars (70’s-80’s early 90’s)are bringing decent money now and certain 1980’s American cars are appreciating wildly especially Fox body mustangs,low mile third generation firebirds and camaros,Buick grand nationals,jeeps,Broncos,blazers,etc.
Someone paid 132k for a 1993 Fox body mustang. https://www.motortrend.com/news/1993-ford-mustang-cobra-r-sells-for-...
I read somewhere there was another one that sold at Barrett Jackson in 2020 for $264,000!
How about this low mile 1971 Datsun 240z that went for $310,000!
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/29/240z-bat-310k-sale/
Someone also paid $121,000 for a low mile 1994 Toyota Supra!
These are extreme examples but illustrate a market trend.

Many classic automotive journalists have said that the the prices for 1950’s and earlier cars are on the decline as the demographic that owns and had an emotional attachment to them ages out of the “hobby” and divests themselves of their collection. As they do more and more restored examples become available but there are fewer buyers. Those buyers are being replaced by people who grew up in the 80’s are now going after the cars they wanted but couldn’t afford,or weren’t old enough to own,or had but sold off and that’s being reflected in the rising prices of vehicles from
That era.. There also seems to be a lot of nostalgia for the 80’s and early 90’s right now too. Television shows,movies,pop cultures references.Even the “oldies” stations are playing all that 80’s synth crap and you hear it being piped into supermarkets and gas stations. I wish we could have another 50’s nostalgia craze instead like we did in the early 70’s.

Maybe we should view this as a golden opportunity and we can start buying 80’s and 90’s crap cars and then unload them when the market for them is at its zenith and then use the money to buy a fleet forward look cars

It’s scary to think that one day we may hear people speaking about their beloved Toyota Supra that they just paid $300,000 for with the same reverence once reserved for a 1957 DeSoto Adventurer,1958 Fury,or any of the great cars.

https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/japanese-collector-cars-1980s-199...

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Viper Guy
Posted 2020-10-11 9:51 PM (#604357 - in reply to #604327)
Subject: Re: 1957 New Yorker Sedan $17K



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As stated above, I also believe the reason for the value of the rice burners and such are high is because they identify with the
younger generation whereas the '50s cars identify more to us older folks that, unfortunately, are far outnumbered. The cars and
trucks of the '80s seem to be the hot number these days that also include K5 Blazers and the original Broncos, Jeep Grand
wagoneers, and the like. Resto-Mods are going bananas too in some cases.

Even Fieros are now in the mid $20K range for a near mint GT or Indy Pace Car if you can believe that!

Edited by Viper Guy 2020-10-11 10:01 PM
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mikes2nd
Posted 2020-10-12 3:02 AM (#604362 - in reply to #604327)
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well see if the cash gets paid on that POS nissan BAT is not for selling FWL's.

I saw the 62 4 door HT imperial hit 26k at Mecum...
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22mafeja
Posted 2020-10-12 3:02 AM (#604363 - in reply to #604327)
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Yep... one can not predict which cars are going to get a value . It is really shocking to watch the pricing of both japanese and european cars from 70-80. These were so crappy
to begin with and now they are good investments...whoaa...
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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-10-12 9:18 AM (#604366 - in reply to #604363)
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22mafeja - 2020-10-12 3:02 AM

Yep... one can not predict which cars are going to get a value . It is really shocking to watch the pricing of both japanese and european cars from 70-80. These were so crappy
to begin with and now they are good investments...whoaa...


Tell me about it. Someone paid $25,000 for a crappy 1974 Honda Civic!?! Why???

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-honda-civic/

Yet as “Powerflite” pointed out,a 58 Dodge 2dr hardtop only went to $8k? The worlds gone mad. Take a look at the long,sleek flowing lines of the Honda Civic,such beauty! Who wouldn’t smile with pride taking the entire family on a Sunday drive is such a beautiful work of art. Boy they sure don’t make ‘em like that anymore. :laugh:

What next? A $30,000 Yugo?

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Charlie8575
Posted 2020-10-23 1:21 AM (#604808 - in reply to #604366)
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Suddenlyits1960! - 2020-10-12 9:18 AM

22mafeja - 2020-10-12 3:02 AM



What next? A $30,000 Yugo?



This conversation was in the December Hemmings Classic Car. Turns out the nicest Yugo in the world is selling for about what they sold for new- around $4,000.00, so I suppose as crazy as things have become, there is still some sanity.

As a GenX myself (I'm 45), I always liked the cars of the era before I was born better because they were more interesting to look at. That said, I do have a short list of some 1970s-'80s cars. I already have a 1992 Chevy Lumina Euro and 1995 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon with factory woodgrain delete, so it's a little different.

The only constant is change.

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frwl
Posted 2020-10-24 5:55 AM (#604855 - in reply to #604327)
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Does anybody knows is this original factory upholstery or not?
I know the NY sedans have four broadcloth trims (blue, green, gray and tan) and three leather trims
There is no turquoise upholstering…





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Powerflite
Posted 2020-10-24 10:09 AM (#604860 - in reply to #604327)
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No, it isn't. The silver-gray upholstery didn't mix with the blues and that isn't the original fabric either. I believe a Turquoise 4dr sedan would have used a Code 80, but I'm not certain. These are the original New Yorker cloth samples. Because the upholstery is mostly silver-gray, I would believe that the car wasn't originally a Turquoise color.

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frwl
Posted 2020-10-24 11:11 AM (#604864 - in reply to #604327)
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Thanks Nathan.
A little correction:

NEW YORKER SEDAN

14 = Starlite Faille and Broadcloth – Blue
15 = Starlite Faille and Broadcloth – Green
16 = Starlite Faille and Broadcloth – Gray
17 = Starlite Faille and Broadcloth – Tan
91 = Leather – Two Tone Blue
92 = Leather – Two Tone Green
93 = Leather – Two Tone Gray

NEW YORKER HARDTOPS

24 = Vinyl and Mosaic Jacquard – Blue
25 = Vinyl and Mosaic Jacquard – Green
26 = Vinyl and Mosaic Jacquard – Gray
27 = Vinyl and Mosaic Jacquard – Tan
28 = Vinyl and Mosaic Jacquard – Turquoise
75 = Vinyl – Two Tone Blue
76 = Vinyl – Two Tone Green
77 = Vinyl – Two Tone Tan
78 = Vinyl – White and Red
79 = Vinyl – Two Tone Turquoise

NEW YORKER CONVERTIBLE

29 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – Blue
30 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – Green
31 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – Tan
32 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – White and Red
75 = Vinyl – Two Tone Blue
76 = Vinyl – Two Tone Green
77 = Vinyl – Two Tone Tan
78 = Vinyl – White and Red
79 = Vinyl – Two Tone Turquoise

NEW YORKER CONVERTIBLE

29 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – Blue
30 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – Green
31 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – Tan
32 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – White and Red
97 = Vinyl – Two Tone Green
98 = Vinyl – Two Tone Blue
99 = Vinyl – Two Tone Tan

So New Yorker SEDAN would have standard trim 14, 15, 16 or 17
I guess this trim definitely is not factory. The trim tag would cleared up this question

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frwl
Posted 2020-10-24 11:13 AM (#604865 - in reply to #604327)
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Oh, of course not twice Convertible:

NEW YORKER TOWN AND COUNTRY WAGONS

29 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – Blue
30 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – Green
31 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – Tan
32 = Vinyl and Heather Tweed – White and Red
97 = Vinyl – Two Tone Green
98 = Vinyl – Two Tone Blue
99 = Vinyl – Two Tone Tan
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-10-24 11:26 AM (#604866 - in reply to #604327)
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Your list still isn't quite right. There is no code 78. The last two should be 79 and 80.
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RDP
Posted 2020-10-24 11:59 AM (#604868 - in reply to #604327)
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frwl
Posted 2020-10-24 12:56 PM (#604873 - in reply to #604327)
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Nathan and Robert – thanks for correction. I will fix it…
Can anyone post the picture of original upholstery ’57 New Yorker Sedan?
I saw the hardtop trims only…

Thanks

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