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Powerflite
Posted 2020-08-27 10:07 PM (#602662)
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I just purchased 2 more '56 Fury's. One isn't in very good condition so I may not build it up, but it's an original stick shift car, which is cool. The other shown here, is probably better than the yellow one, at least it has less rust and is more complete. Although the front end of it has been torn apart, the mechanicals are in worse shape and the tach is missing. This one has manual steering, powerflite and power brakes. I guess I'll clean this one up and get it back together now that the yellow one is more respectable. What am I going to do with three '56 Fury's?



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Posted 2020-08-27 10:56 PM (#602663 - in reply to #602662)
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Wow! That guy must have been the 56 fury king to have so many. Now you’ve taken over the mantle! Does this one have all the gold aluminum trim or just what’s shown in the photos? Hopefully the other pieces are in the trunk. You should be able to make a really nice one amongst the three! You must have quite a fleet of fins now! I’m curious,did the seller have any 57 and later cars or was he mostly into 56’s?
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Posted 2020-08-27 11:28 PM (#602665 - in reply to #602662)
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Posted 2020-08-28 12:28 AM (#602668 - in reply to #602662)
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All the gold trim is there, although the right front one is a little mangled. Hopefully, I can straighten it out. The seller is more into Trans Ams and Camaros and didn't have anything else of interest except a '56 New Yorker sedan. I almost bought the New Yorker as well, just for the motor, but felt I couldn't handle the work load and finances right now, so I didn't. He bought all these back when they came up for sale after the guy in Bloomington (near San Bernardino) who collected them had died (I believe), because he thought they looked cool like a '57 Chevy. He bought all 4 '56 Plymouths from the guy's estate and I have now bought them all from him. Gary Grossich also picked up a Rose/White '56 Belvedere convertible from the same place at that time, so the guy was really into these '56 Plymouths, but he had a ton of other random stuff too.

Mike, the '56 doesn't drive the same as a torsion bar car, but they are pretty fun nevertheless. I have really enjoyed my '56 Savoy over the years. One annoying thing is I am out of decent tires to put on these cars and the tires on this one are complete trash. I'm going to have to buy some wheels right away just to be able to move this around. The body number on this car is 404-E3370 so it's the 2370th Fury made. Right near the middle and came from the factory with the later style speaker grille. I had never seen a '56 Plymouth "Power Brake" pedal before but both of these Furys have them on it. Pretty cool.



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Posted 2020-08-28 3:01 AM (#602670 - in reply to #602662)
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Posted 2020-08-28 8:44 AM (#602674 - in reply to #602662)
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Posted 2020-08-28 10:44 AM (#602678 - in reply to #602670)
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IMO, you would be wise to pick all the best parts from the cars and build a good one. You are now, officially, THE GUY for '57-58 big body cars and '56 Plymouths!
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-08-28 2:15 PM (#602688 - in reply to #602662)
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Thanks, I agree Danny, but I am going to pick the best parts from three to make two. I have so many now that I have to rethink my plans. My wife and kids really like the rose Belvedere so that one is a keeper. I will probably convert it to power steering & maybe power brakes to make it easier for them to drive it. But I'm not sure what my plans are for these Fury's yet. I'm inclined to make one of them a manual 5 speed, and maybe a Chrysler hemi. Maybe this one will be it, or maybe I will eventually try to fix the original crappy one. But I will probably end up selling the yellow one. We'll see. Anyway, you can probably tell that I haven't figured it out yet.

The trunk lid on this car is locked with no keys (of course! ) and I understand that neither of the two previous owners has been inside it. It will be interesting to see what lies in there. On the front seat, there was an NOS 2bbl carb, a 56 Plym starter, a 276 & 291 DeSoto dual point distributors. Anyone need any of these? Let me know because I have no use for them. I'll put them up on Ebay in a week or two. It also had two NOS tail lights and another used one in great shape. That's really nice. Good tail lights for these cars are getting hard to find. Additionally, there was a couple of battery hold downs, misc hardware, a rebuilt generator, extra wiper arms, rear view mirror, used front turn signal lenses & a pair of aftermarket side view mirrors. I don't think I'm going to use these mirrors either if anyone wants them.



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Powerflite
Posted 2020-08-29 12:11 AM (#602697 - in reply to #602662)
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All the missing trim was in the car, as well as an extra gold trim for the right front fender, which is a good thing since the one on the fender ended up being too short (why?). The only trim the car is missing is 2 corners that I will probably steal from the yellow car.

I got the trunk open, but the bounty in the boot turned out to be more like junk in the trunk. But there were a few worthwhile goodies in there. This distributor is a correct '56 Fury distributor so that's nice, but it's missing the tach drive, unfortunately. The two mirror heads are in good shape and one of them is for a '57-'58 car. Having the original jack is kinda cool too. These turn signal lenses are in decent shape and it was nice not to have to purchase another set of hood springs for the car.

I'm working on mounting the hood now and tappng the holes so it will go on smoothly. I'm missing the right inner fender so that stinks. Hopefully the 3rd Fury has a good one I can steal for it. The right fender isn't originally to this car and is heavily bent up. I pounded it out with a dead blow on my driveway and got it straight enough to mount, but it is oil-canning in 5 or 6 places. Fixing this would be very difficult, so I will be looking for a replacement.



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Powerflite
Posted 2020-08-30 2:04 AM (#602722 - in reply to #602662)
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Dave, DepsilonD, was parting out a '56 Plymouth today and graciously offered me a 318 poly motor along with a right fender, inner fender, radiator support, and other parts I needed. Thanks alot Dave! That saved me a lot of trouble rounding this stuff up for this car. We managed to get it all in my beater hatchback compact to transport. Behold the power of the hatchback! This car is great for taking some abuse that I would never give to one of my other cars. I was going to make a poly stroker out of this motor for the Fury, but I might be able to get it running. If I get that lucky, I will just swap some parts on it and run it. It's a '64 motor so I will need to use a later push button trans with it.

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Powerflite
Posted 2020-09-08 3:07 PM (#603033 - in reply to #602662)
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It seems that the '56 Fury used a right side exhaust manifold that has the generator mount on it, but that they never installed the generator over there. Is that correct? On other '56 Plymouths, they put the generator on the far right if there wasn't power steering installed, like on my Belvedere & Savoy. On this car, the generator & brackets that came with the car is made to mount on the top of the motor too, but without power steering.



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Powerflite
Posted 2020-09-19 1:41 AM (#603314 - in reply to #602662)
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I started working on this car and cleaned it up a little. This one doesn't have as much hard water deposits on it as the yellow one did, but still wasn't easy to clean. Makes me wonder where they were stored before they arrived in Bloomington. None of the latches work on this car, but I was able to replace the trunk latch with one that works if you manually reset the position every time. It needs a new spring in it. Hopefully, I can get a good one from John. Next up on it is to get the right quarter trim re-mounted on the car so I can eliminate that tape holding it on and clean out the interior of it. Hopefully the floors are in better shape than they were on the yellow car....



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Posted 2020-09-19 2:18 PM (#603342 - in reply to #602662)
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I think this is the first classic car I've bought that had a functioning glove box in it. This was the contents of it. It's mostly junk, but the missing trim corner is a very welcome sight! The seat knob is nice too and the old maps are really cool. This car was last registered in 1973 or maybe 1974 so I assume many of those maps are from the very early 70's or '60's. The tire iron was from under the seat of course.

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Posted 2020-09-19 2:23 PM (#603344 - in reply to #602662)
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The floors in this car are really clean. Much better than the yellow car, due to having carpet instead of a rubber mat on the floor. Even the removable panel is in great shape. The only issue is that the top of the left rocker at the front part rusted a hole and rusted out the inner rocker in that area as well. It looks like someone tried to lift the car with the rocker there and bent it upward. So that will require some effort to get it right.



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Posted 2020-09-19 4:22 PM (#603349 - in reply to #602662)
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Posted 2020-09-19 10:26 PM (#603365 - in reply to #602662)
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I haven't found a broadcast sheet yet. I felt on top of the glove box and nothing was there. I didn't find one from the rusty car either, and I tore that one down completely. My Los Angeles built '56 Savoy had a broadcast sheet stuck to the undercoating under the rubber floor mat on the passenger side of the car. The undercoating all over it made it unreadable though.

I installed the tachometer from the rusty car into this dash. I didn't tighten it down yet because it is a pain and I will do it after I convert it to work with newer electronics in it. A little soap and water, scrubbing and a new horn button goes a long way to making the dash look much better. I broke a bolt off when I took off the seat so I need to weld a nub to it so I can twist it out of there.

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Powerflite
Posted 2020-09-20 10:47 AM (#603374 - in reply to #602662)
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I got rid of the tape and finally removed of all the tape residue on the right quarter. Then mounted the trim with Auveco 2744 universal trim clips. These are the screw-on type, but they are a little too big for the trim. The smaller ones that would fit better are too expensive and no longer available from Auveco. Being too big places the trim a little offset from the center of the stud, but I found that moving the trim further onto the aluminum panel was actually a good thing. So I am pleased with the results. The aluminum was a little warped from having sat so long without the trim to support it, so it was a little difficult to get it set, but it should reset now it is under pressure again. I could get access to all but one hole in the middle, which needs to be attached with a blind clip instead.

I also figured out why my right side door doesn't latch properly. The star wheel on it is broken in half. So it doesn't hold the door well once it is latched. Looks like I need a new latch. Unfortunately, I think the latch from the rusty fury was garbage, so I may need to look for another.



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Posted 2020-09-20 11:00 AM (#603375 - in reply to #603374)
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Powerflite - 2020-09-20 7:47 AM Then mounted the trim with Auveco 2744 universal trim clips. These are the screw-on type, but they are a little too big for the trim. The smaller ones that would fit better are too expensive and no longer available from Auveco.


Yeh. The 2744 and 2818 seem to be the smallest size of that style clip that they have now. I used those and one or two other sizes on my 56 Dodge Trim. I had to use a "blind" clip (plastic) on one location on the rear side fender trim as well. Current end result for you looks good, like a Fury should.




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Powerflite
Posted 2020-09-21 2:57 PM (#603424 - in reply to #602662)
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Thanks Dave. I was surprised to find out that the passenger door latch from the rusty Fury that gave me so much trouble, just to get the door open, turned out to be in great shape. I just had to bend the parts back to the proper position and oil & grease it up really well. After straightening it, even the lock mechanism works well now. Unfortunately, the driver's side on that car is junk because all the springs are broken on it. But at least I no longer need to search for a good latch for the passenger side.



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Powerflite
Posted 2020-09-23 1:17 PM (#603522 - in reply to #602662)
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I couldn't roll up the window on the driver's side and the door latch didn't do anything. I tried oiling up the regulator and cranking on it with a junk handle only to end up bending my handle. Since I had to take it out anyway to get to the latch, I did that. Then I clamped the regulator post in the bench vise, filled the backside with WD40 and oil, and twisted the assembly around. That broke it free and I worked it around to eliminate the rust inside there. Works quite easily now and all the spring clips are still good on it, but unfortunately the window was cracked in multiple places so I need a replacement for it.

After removing the door latch, I found that the main arm that engages & disengages the latch was broken off and the parts inside are messed up. Since I don't have a replacement, I'm going to try to cut apart the pins holding it together and try to make one good one out of the two junk ones I have. I'll weld the pins back together afterward. Probability of success isn't very high, but I have nothing to lose on it.



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Posted 2020-09-23 9:38 PM (#603532 - in reply to #602662)
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I have posted info before on my 55 wagon front window repairs here but cant find it so have listed entries from my log, may be of help

30/10 Ordered window sash channel rubber from Langs Old Car Parts for $A44, excellent service, shipped in 2 days
8020 Door glass to metal channel rubber seal Year: 1924-1927 6 ft (enough for 4 windows)
9/11 Ordered window parts from Rubber the Right Way USA for $A193 (excellent service, shipped in 5 days)
10-045X door window lower sash channel 5/8" x 9/16" 28-60 GM (metal channel) 4 ft cut in half
10-044X sash channel filler, black rubber 1/16" thick, 3 ft (not used)
10-154X rigid window channel 3/8" x 1/2" 1941-50 Packard (pair) 4 ft cut to 30" (vent frame)
Note: have sweeper staples in ss
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15/11 Ordered window channel parts plus others from Andy Bernbaum, messy to deal with as took several emails and faxes and over two weeks to order, order not confirmed. However available lengths and shipping coiled are in favour)
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Posted 2020-09-23 9:40 PM (#603533 - in reply to #602662)
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Just found the post another way

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Posted 2020-09-23 11:50 PM (#603534 - in reply to #602662)
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Thanks for the information Jim. I'm not going to put new rubber into this car yet. I wouldn't do that until after I get it painted. Right now I am just trying to be able to shut the doors and roll up the windows! I tore the two door latches apart by grinding off the heads of the posts that rivet them together. The original latch had a broken lever that is shown at the bottom of the picture and the latch from the rusty Fury had broken springs in it but the lever was good. The two lower levers are labeled "L" for the lower one, and "S" for the middle one. Apparently they aren't the same length and create an angled change as it goes from bottom to the top. The bottom one was also a little deformed from use so I pounded it back into shape and ensured it was flat again by running a file across it. So after swapping parts and making sure I know how it goes back together, I clamped the top back on at the two tab locations, used a socket to smack it into place around the posts, and welded it back together. Then I bent the tabs as well. My new latch works wonderfully now, good as new and I couldn't be happier with it. But then I had to bend the inner door frame back to proper shape as it was bent up from an abusive owner. Half an hour later, and I can start to re-assemble the door.

I also used the welder, while I had it out, to extract that broken bolt from my front seat mount in the floor.

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Powerflite
Posted 2020-09-24 12:03 AM (#603535 - in reply to #602662)
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The outside door handle was also missing the latch entirely. This is a common problem with these handles because the end of the prongs are spot welded together and under heavy use, the spot welds can come apart. This makes them very weak and they bend up, out of the way of the latch tab. So after bending the prongs back into the right position, I clamped them together and welded them all around. This makes these things much stronger and should prevent any future problems. If you use these handles, I highly recommend you do this to all of them even if they haven't separated yet because the likelihood that they could have trouble later is quite high.



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Powerflite
Posted 2020-09-26 3:17 PM (#603614 - in reply to #602662)
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I installed the latch & door handles, and now I have a working door again. It looks like the door may be tweaked though because the bottom of the door sticks out quite a bit in the back and I am unable to adjust it out. But I am done messing with it. When I get it running, I'll take it to a professional to work it out. Right now, I'm waiting for a glass guy to cut me a new window and a locksmith to make me new keys from the door lock in order to finish putting the door back together. But while I have the seats out, I decided to clean up the floors & paint them. I only removed the undercoating that wasn't firmly stuck to the floor. No reason to dig it all out it if it's still doing its job. I found two relatively small rust holes on the passenger side that you can just see in the photo, but no other surprises. Since this will require some welding before it will be ready for final paint, I'm just going to leave it in primer until that gets finished. Until then, this coat cleans it up nicely and should prevent any further rust from forming.



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Powerflite
Posted 2020-10-31 6:58 PM (#605136 - in reply to #602662)
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I decided to clean up the engine bay before I install the motor into this car, which begins with painting the inner fenders. But the battery support on this car was bent up and rusted through in multiple places. After bending it back into shape so I could mount the radiator support properly, and get it into its proper position, I cut the rusted section out and formed a new piece to fit into it. My original form didn't fit as well as I had planned but I was able to use a hammer and dolly to adjust it after I had tack welded most of it into place. I think it came out really well. We'll see after I clean it up. I'll punch the new hole into it after I'm finished grinding the welds down. And I'll clean up the backside & do final hammer/dolly work after I remove it from the car to make it easier.



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Posted 2020-11-01 12:12 AM (#605150 - in reply to #602662)
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I quickly cleaned up the welds, but I need to do some hammer & dolly work before I can finish it because of the dents that I put into it from punching the hole. To make the flanged hole, I had my son press a 13/16" 12 point socket below the hole while I pounded a 1/2" bolt with a tube over it through the hole to push the edges through. Then I followed up with a larger 1/2" socket. It came out well, but I think my son didn't have pressure on it the whole time so the panel became a little dented and the edges aren't as well defined as I would like them to be. When I remove the inner fender, it will be easier to work it and I will finish it then and tighten up the edge on the hole as well.



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Posted 2020-11-08 12:59 PM (#605413 - in reply to #602662)
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I removed the fender and finished doing the repair work, including cleaning up the backside. I then stripped all the rust & grime from both sides (partly while it rained on me! ), leaving the undercoating that wouldn't easily remove and primed/sealed it. I did the same to the two parts that mount to it. The lower bracket was bent terribly and looks like it still needs one edge massaged a little. Looks like I missed 2 dents in the fender. It's hard to see everything until it becomes a uniform color. The small circle on the picture shows a region that needs more metal added to clean up that edge. I'll weld that and clean it up again, then sand and respray it. Overall, I'm very happy with my repair job. The flanged hole came out great and you can hardly tell that area has been repaired now without any filler really required.

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Posted 2020-11-08 1:31 PM (#605415 - in reply to #605413)
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Good job Nathan. Looks great.

Just don't forget that some of those sheet metal pieces were never perfect even when the cars first left the factory. Some of the stamping processes could not avoid a few kinks and such as part of the process, i.e. no need to over-restore and remove them.



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Posted 2020-11-14 12:57 PM (#605653 - in reply to #602662)
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After a lot of sanding and prep work, it was ready for paint. I painted it with a semi-gloss black because I think it looks better that way. Unfortunately, I got a drip on it from my gun that I need to sand off and fix. Painting is so much fun! But I can't complain because it looks a whole lot better than it did. Oh....and you were right Dave. That dent that I circled to the far right is actually a factory ripple from pressing the panel. I hadn't realized that before I checked my other cars and they all have the same dents there. So I left it in.

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Posted 2020-11-15 9:31 PM (#605678 - in reply to #605653)
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Looks fantastic Nathan. Great job. :thumbs:

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Posted 2020-11-16 10:10 AM (#605687 - in reply to #602662)
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That is a definite step forward, very professional looking. I am getting to like semi gloss black too, am using it for over and under parts of my 38. My 55 wagon body is also semi gloss black thanks to previous owner, is nick-named the hearse, but our plan is to do it in original Pompano Peach with white roof rather than the original cypress brown roof (to combat the summer heat over here). I havent had the wagon out for months but plan to fill the tank tomorrow, load it up with boxed hampers from Foodbank to take to the local emergency relief centre. I also need mower fuel, and the 29 is near empty so that should take care of the morning.
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Posted 2020-11-22 11:45 AM (#605924 - in reply to #602662)
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Thanks Dave and Jim. Peach & White is a fantastic color combo, that'll look great!

I've been working on all the small parts that need to connect to the firewall & inner fenders. The blower motor works great but the wires will need to be replaced because they are completely stripped of their jacket. I'll do that next and try to keep the original connectors on it. This car had been sitting for many years without the hood on it. That completely destroyed the rubber on the original brake booster. Fortunately, I had this booster in my stash from a '56 Windsor I had parted out many years ago. I cleaned it up and scrubbed the rubber with go-jo to clean & soften it up. Came out great and still works well. The gaskets behind the brake parts were very rusty and had caused most of the rust stain on the firewall. I didn't want to delete them, however, so I cleaned them up as well and painted them with epoxy primer/sealer. Not sure if I will paint a top coat on them or not... probably not. After I cleaned up the vacuum can, I tested it with compressed air and found a pin hole in it. So I welded it up and brazed over the weld to ensure it was sealed. Retesting proved it to be successful and it cleaned up pretty nicely.



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Posted 2020-11-22 12:43 PM (#605927 - in reply to #602662)
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It looks very good, just like new

I like these 56 cars more and more each day
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Posted 2020-11-22 2:04 PM (#605929 - in reply to #605924)
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Thanks for posting those photos Nathan. I didn't really realize that the accordion bellows Power Brake and the master cylinder were on their own plates.

Paint looks great. What colour did you use for the "gold" on the bellows end plate?

All that said, I should have known about the different plates because I apparently (4 years ago - Nov. 25, 2016) took my master cylinder plate off when I replaced the master cylinder. Totally forgot about that.



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Posted 2020-11-22 4:51 PM (#605934 - in reply to #602662)
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Thanks Robert & Dave. The gold on the bellows is a little different blend than what I used on the '57 New Yorker. I thought I would try something new. It is duplicolor gold with a light mist of copper paint while the gold is still wet. The separate brake plates are one of the differences between '55-'56 and '57-up. Another difference is the tangs on the bellows have two full prongs, not one long & one short like on '57-up. Also, the right side inner fender has a bolt-on piece similar to the left side, only much smaller.

I also cleaned up the right inner fender that I got from DepsilonD. This car didn't come with a right inner fender or core support and the right fender was quite beat up, so DepsilonD was kind enough to give me some parts from his parts car that I needed. I'm not sure if the bends in the left side of the photo are put there from the factory or not, but they don't look easy to fix if they aren't. I'll check my other cars before proceeding. I know the ripples at the top of the panel are a result of the factory pressing. I was also able to get the motor I got from Dave to rotate 90 degrees, but no more. That tells me it is likely a couple of stuck valves. I'll try removing the valve covers, soaking the valves in PB blaster and whacking them with a rubber mallet to see if that does anything. Worst case, I may need to remove the heads and get a valve job done on them before I install the motor into the car. If I do that, I'll be tempted to change the cam & timing gears while I am in there....

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Posted 2020-11-24 8:04 PM (#606006 - in reply to #602662)
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I found out that those bends at the back end of that right side panel are not put there by the factory. None of my other cars have them. So I went to the trouble to straighten them out. It came out pretty well, but the primer will need to be sanded around that area to finish it off once it fully cures again. I wonder how they got there. It's an odd set of bends to see in that region.

I cleaned up the radiator support and other small items & got them primed. Painting stuff like this is annoying because it takes so long to clean & prep, and cure, and then conditions have to be right in order to paint etc. But it does make the assembly a lot nicer looking when done. I don't think I will paint the frame this time around though. Just don't know if it would be worth it because I'm not doing the whole thing anyway and it'll likely be covered with black goo in a couple years too. Not sure it's worth the trouble to do it.



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Posted 2020-11-25 3:05 AM (#606012 - in reply to #606006)
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Looks really like a candy....I bet by now a big part of your yard has been painted several times...
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Posted 2020-11-25 4:05 AM (#606013 - in reply to #602662)
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Very nice work, interesting to follow the process
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Posted 2020-11-25 9:41 AM (#606015 - in reply to #606013)
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You are making some great progress! You have enough projects to last a lifetime!

I had a 330 Desoto that would only turn 90 degrees. Like you, I assumed a valvetrain issue, but I took a closer look before pulling it all apart. At some point, the engine had been resting without support, and the oil pan was dented enough to interfere with the crankshaft counterweights. Might check that on yours!

The ripples in that inner fender came from minor crash damage. Could be as simple as driving over a curb.
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Posted 2020-11-28 6:43 PM (#606139 - in reply to #602662)
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Thanks, the part of the process that I haven't been showing is all the sanding and re-spraying in between. The red primer/sealer that I use on everything isn't compatible with the top coat, or at least it isn't until it has cured for a very long time. To get around that I use a gray filler primer on top of it that I can sand down easily. Any place that I end up sanding into the red primer below, I use a more expensive red primer (slightly lighter shade of red) over the top of it that cures faster & sprays on more evenly than the gray primer so it requires less sanding. Then it gets top-coated. And I think you are right Danny, that the ripples were caused by an impact because there is a sizeable dent in front of the matching parts fender from whacking a fork lift while the parts car was being moved around.

Also, thanks for the suggestion Danny. The oil pan is fine so that's not the issue, although I will be swapping it out anyway so I'll have ample opportunity to check the bottom end while I am down there. I'll replace the rear main seal & oil pump while I am there, and I might replace the rod bearings too,..maybe.



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Posted 2020-11-29 3:07 AM (#606146 - in reply to #606139)
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What are you sanding with Nathan? Haven`t you got clogging problems? On earlier restorations I used a kind of cheaper epoxy but I
couldn`t stand the clogging misery so I had to move to the more expensive (ouch) stuff which cures quicker.
At least I don`t use anything else than sanding net off the roll for the sanding.
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Posted 2020-12-02 11:53 AM (#606268 - in reply to #602662)
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I use wet sanding paper. You can sand directly on the sealer, but only if it has fully cured in the sun for 4-5 days. I don't like to wait that long and it is better not to sand the sealer anyway so I apply a more sand-able gray primer on top of it after a day or two. I am reluctant to change brands of sealer as I have tested this one extensively and it works really well. I left a part out in my sprinklers, in the mud for 3 years without rust showing up on it. No other that I tried did as well.

I finished painting the right inner fender and am working on the brakes & core support now.



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Posted 2020-12-03 2:29 AM (#606297 - in reply to #606268)
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Looks really great...you are a lucky since you live where the sun shines. Sun and wind is the best drying method. I agree that the stickier sealer the better...
But have you tried the sanding nets..if not you should....works better than wet sanding for me.

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Posted 2020-12-03 2:33 PM (#606318 - in reply to #602662)
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Thanks Ralf, lucky to have sun, unlucky to have no space for a bigger garage.... I'll give that sandpaper a try. Thanks for the tip!

I made the dual circuit, disc brake lines for this car and decided to make all 4 sets of them for my four '56 Plymouths since all of them will need the lines replaced. Goes faster when you make them like an assembly line.



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Posted 2020-12-03 7:06 PM (#606329 - in reply to #602662)
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Hi Nathan... I was able to purchase about 40 radiators from where your 56 Furys originally came from. There are about a dozen 55-56 MOPAR radiators, including one with a shroud marked "56 Fury." Alot of the cars out there had the radiators stolen, so I thought I'd let you know in case you needed one.



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Posted 2020-12-05 1:11 PM (#606414 - in reply to #602662)
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That would be good Gary, none of these four cars had a radiator in them. I'll send you a message closer to a time when I can come down that way.

The tips of the hood on this car were pretty severely bent over. I spent about an hour & a half to get them straight enough to start welding the cracks up. Afterward, I will clean up the welds and do more detailed hammer & dolly work on them. I'll probably have to bend the lip flanges out more to gain better access to the edge as well. This also bent the hood edge further up at the two spots you can see in the photo, but I have taken most of that bend out at this point.



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Posted 2020-12-05 6:33 PM (#606426 - in reply to #602662)
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The firewall is coming together after painting with off-white. I decided that I will leave this car in its original non-color. The paint on the yellow Fury will be more unique. Much of this paint was surprisingly in pretty good shape. I didn't touch the paint on the left section where the fender mount bracket is located. That's still all original paint on there. I am waiting to receive 2 un-cracked heater boxes in the mail that I have purchased and I am also waiting to get a replacement fender mount bracket that will weld to the right side firewall area. There are a couple of holes in the firewall that were covered by putty. Guess I'll have to recover them or put a bolt into them now. I probably should have welded them shut, but I wasn't sure what they were for. Once I receive all the brake parts I ordered, I should be able to start the 12" disc brake conversion from AAJ as well. Unfortunately, the powerflite trans isn't compatible with the newer 318 poly motor that I am installing. Bummer because I didn't really want to remove it all, but I'll use it in the yellow car instead. I will probably install a standard 727 trans and use my cable conversion from Imperial services with it.

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Posted 2020-12-05 8:05 PM (#606431 - in reply to #606426)
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Looking great there Nathan but you are killing me. How did you get the hood springs painted so nicely?

I've tried and failed two different ways. Yours look so nice.

My failed attempts to open the spring enough to paint.







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Hanging the springs from the garage roof with an enough heavy weight in the other end will do the work Dave.
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