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TJ Mayes
Posted 2020-05-23 9:31 AM (#598667)
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60 plymouth speedo cable. Mine is 70” and has the o-ring style trans end. I have a message out to Murray Park and investigating a few other options but thought I’d check here too.

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Powerflite
Posted 2020-05-23 1:24 PM (#598680 - in reply to #598667)
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I've seen new ones for sale on Ebay.
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TJ Mayes
Posted 2020-05-23 2:16 PM (#598682 - in reply to #598667)
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Nothing new on eBay has the correct trans end.

There are a couple NOS that are a bit rusty and $100+. A bit leery of that.
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Posted 2020-05-23 2:24 PM (#598683 - in reply to #598667)
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These cables aren't cheap. The shift & park cables aren't cheap either. That's why I cringe when I see these transmissions with cut cables. The cost to replace them is more than the cost of the transmission.
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TJ Mayes
Posted 2020-05-23 3:58 PM (#598689 - in reply to #598667)
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Yeah...I understand that. I don’t mind paying the price but if the outside is rusty, good chance the inside is too and that’s a no-go for me.
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1960fury
Posted 2020-05-23 5:22 PM (#598692 - in reply to #598683)
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Powerflite - 2020-05-23 2:24 PM

These cables aren't cheap. The shift & park cables aren't cheap either. That's why I cringe when I see these transmissions with cut cables. The cost to replace them is more than the cost of the transmission.


What makes me even more cringe is, that these are actually non wear items, properly serviced. Takes only 10 minutes. I lubed mine in the late 80s with a grease/oil mix. Still works troublefree, OE with 330++k miles
ALL of the FLs I imported had almost dry cables with jumping needles. I don't get it.
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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-23 7:50 PM (#598697 - in reply to #598692)
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1960fury”,
100 % agree,it’s called preventative maintenance. Went through the same thing with mine when I bought it. Nobody seems to lube the cables,or oil the speedometer heads. I guess that’s expecting too much when most folks don’t even change their transmission fluid or filter until they have transmission problems these days.

I think it’s great you’re driving and enjoying your Fury like it was meant to be when new. They are beautiful cars and deserve to be on the road. Did you rebuild the engine and trans before driving it to 330k or are the miles on the original engine with just routine maintenance?
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TJ Mayes
Posted 2020-05-23 8:22 PM (#598698 - in reply to #598667)
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Check out what mine looked like! Hahaha

I just got the car so it’s someone else’s neglect. Guessing it dried up, seized and frayed like hell.

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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-23 9:42 PM (#598704 - in reply to #598698)
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Wire spaghetti! You’ll get a kick out of the “teleview” speedometer once you get it working. Chrysler really went wild with their dash designs starting in 1960. The Dodge is even more futuristic looking in my opinion,it has a speedometer needle that “floats” in a transparent housing that lets the light shine through.

Does your Savoy have the plastic speaker grille? That’s another pieces that’s usually missing
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1960fury
Posted 2020-05-24 5:45 AM (#598714 - in reply to #598697)
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Suddenlyits1960! - 2020-05-23 7:50 PM

1960fury”,
100 % agree,it’s called preventative maintenance. Went through the same thing with mine when I bought it. Nobody seems to lube the cables,or oil the speedometer heads. I guess that’s expecting too much when most folks don’t even change their transmission fluid or filter until they have transmission problems these days.

I think it’s great you’re driving and enjoying your Fury like it was meant to be when new. They are beautiful cars and deserve to be on the road. Did you rebuild the engine and trans before driving it to 330k or are the miles on the original engine with just routine maintenance?


No, I didn't rebuild the engine and in the 30+ years only had a transmission failure. When I bought it I pulled the engine oil pan to modifie it and to install a windage tray, I found an inch of sludge in the pan and thought thats it, that engine is finished, also the rockers were (are) covered with a thick layer of carbon. Because I didn't have any money I decided to run it as long as possible until it quits, with everything adjusted to specs, quality synthetic motor oil, some perfomance mods, etc I ran it like there is no tomorrow (still a teenager when I bought it).

Well, that is 32 years ago and up to this day, after driving almost daily, it still runs like new (no unusual noises, perfect oil pressure) and never caused any problems whatsoever, heads never been off since August 18 1959, when it was build. I L-O-V-E this machine and I must add that I still drive it that way, rarely a week without the speedo pegged (135mph). Top speed in excess of 150mph (guessed by the way it jumps to 135 in a heartbeat, speedo checked) and despite of the 2.93 axle it goes to 60 in under 6 seconds.
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1960fury
Posted 2020-05-24 5:59 AM (#598715 - in reply to #598697)
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Suddenlyits1960! - 2020-05-23 7:50 PM

1960fury”,
100 % agree,it’s called preventative maintenance.


Yes, better than replacing costly parts that are getting scarce. I alway try to maintain originality as long as possible. Lots, or all, of the replacement parts today are made in China. Even the ball joints for our cars are now plastic lined "non wear" new car crap.

I lube/go thru absolutely EVERYTHING when I buy an old car. It is the first thing I do. U joint, wheel bearings, ball joints, rear axle, locks, wiper linkage and gear, hinges, window mechanism, speedo cable, replace all the oils, including PS, etc, etc.

Even the inner tie rod ends and front wheel bearings are still OE and like new in my car, at 330++K miles. Also the OE B&t joint is still like new and I realy stressed that.

I don't get the laziness, it is so easy and even fun (at least for me) to maintain and take care of an old car. This laziness of so called "car enthusiasts" drives me mad.
There is no excuse for that, it is not rocket science.



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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-24 1:01 PM (#598728 - in reply to #598714)
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1960fury - 2020-05-24 5:45 AM

Suddenlyits1960! - 2020-05-23 7:50 PM

1960fury”,
100 % agree,it’s called preventative maintenance. Went through the same thing with mine when I bought it. Nobody seems to lube the cables,or oil the speedometer heads. I guess that’s expecting too much when most folks don’t even change their transmission fluid or filter until they have transmission problems these days.

I think it’s great you’re driving and enjoying your Fury like it was meant to be when new. They are beautiful cars and deserve to be on the road. Did you rebuild the engine and trans before driving it to 330k or are the miles on the original engine with just routine maintenance?


No, I didn't rebuild the engine and in the 30+ years only had a transmission failure. When I bought it I pulled the engine oil pan to modifie it and to install a windage tray, I found an inch of sludge in the pan and thought thats it, that engine is finished, also the rockers were (are) covered with a thick layer of carbon. Because I didn't have any money I decided to run it as long as possible until it quits, with everything adjusted to specs, quality synthetic motor oil, some perfomance mods, etc I ran it like there is no tomorrow (still a teenager when I bought it).

Well, that is 32 years ago and up to this day, after driving almost daily, it still runs like new (no unusual noises, perfect oil pressure) and never caused any problems whatsoever, heads never been off since August 18 1959, when it was build. I L-O-V-E this machine and I must add that I still drive it that way, rarely a week without the speedo pegged (135mph). Top speed in excess of 150mph (guessed by the way it jumps to 135 in a heartbeat, speedo checked) and despite of the 2.93 axle it goes to 60 in under 6 seconds.


That’s a great story! It’s a testament to the durabilty of these old motors. Sludge was much more of a problem back then. Oils have come a long,long way since the 50’s. I’ve seen some engines so sludged up the oil return holes were mostly useless.
I think Chrysler has the best automatic transmissions during that time. I love the torqueflite.

That’s great you’ve hung onto her for 32 years too! I wish you many more happy years of trouble free motoring. I love hearing stories where people drive these cars daily. They were meant to be used and enjoyed,not sit and collect dust.
What synthetic oil are you running?
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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-24 1:27 PM (#598730 - in reply to #598715)
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1960fury - 2020-05-24 5:59 AM

Suddenlyits1960! - 2020-05-23 7:50 PM

1960fury”,
100 % agree,it’s called preventative maintenance.


Yes, better than replacing costly parts that are getting scarce. I alway try to maintain originality as long as possible. Lots, or all, of the replacement parts today are made in China. Even the ball joints for our cars are now plastic lined "non wear" new car crap.

I lube/go thru absolutely EVERYTHING when I buy an old car. It is the first thing I do. U joint, wheel bearings, ball joints, rear axle, locks, wiper linkage and gear, hinges, window mechanism, speedo cable, replace all the oils, including PS, etc, etc.

Even the inner tie rod ends and front wheel bearings are still OE and like new in my car, at 330++K miles. Also the OE B&t joint is still like new and I realy stressed that.

I don't get the laziness, it is so easy and even fun (at least for me) to maintain and take care of an old car. This laziness of so called "car enthusiasts" drives me mad.
There is no excuse for that, it is not rocket science.



I don’t understand it either. Thats my standard procedure too. I take care of the mechanical things first and perform all routine maintenance. I want the car to be reliable and last.
I remember when I bought my car the seller commenting on how you “have to force the rear windows down by pushing on them while you crank the handle”.the first thing I did when I got it home was clean and lubricate the window mechanisms and they worked beautifully after that. It’s hard to believe the previous was too lazy to do that. The fun of a hardtop is driving it with all the windows down.

Too me it’s enjoyable to do these things too. It gives you a feeling of accomplishment afterwards to see something working correctly again. And like you said,much if the work is very straightforward and easy.

I agree with you about the quality of many of the replacement parts these days. Some of it is really garbage. There Nothing like taking apart your brakes only to discover a wheel cylinders was cast incorrectly,or a hole was machined off center so it can’t be installed.
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1960fury
Posted 2020-05-24 1:31 PM (#598731 - in reply to #598728)
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Suddenlyits1960! - 2020-05-24 1:01 PM

That’s great you’ve hung onto her for 32 years too! I wish you many more happy years of trouble free motoring. I love hearing stories where people drive these cars daily. They were meant to be used and enjoyed,not sit and collect dust.
What synthetic oil are you running?


Thank you very much!

No specific brand of oil, mostly Castrol 0W40. In summers I switched to Valvoline 5W50 in recent years. I know the latter still has lots of Zinc in it.

Here is the thread, with a picture, I started to honor its 60th birthday:

http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=72316&post...

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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-25 11:09 AM (#598763 - in reply to #598731)
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I’m using the Valvoline too for the same reason. The VR-1 Racing oil also has the higher zinc,but it’s a conventional oil.

Thanks for sharing the 60th anniversary link. I had never seen it. Your Fury is beautiful. Hard to believe that 60 years ago such cars rolled off the assembly lines and now look at the crap that’s turned out. I too wish I could go back to when these Forward looks were new and see and live with them in their natural environment. I would like to echo the sentiments of the member who said that I wish you’re car 60 more years of service.
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Posted 2020-05-25 9:21 PM (#598797 - in reply to #598667)
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If you want N.O.S. and NEW U.S.A. made parts -- I have MOUNTAINS yet
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1960fury
Posted 2020-05-26 5:54 AM (#598800 - in reply to #598763)
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Suddenlyits1960! - 2020-05-25 11:09 AM

I’m using the Valvoline too for the same reason. The VR-1 Racing oil also has the higher zinc,but it’s a conventional oil.

Thanks for sharing the 60th anniversary link. I had never seen it. Your Fury is beautiful. Hard to believe that 60 years ago such cars rolled off the assembly lines and now look at the crap that’s turned out. I too wish I could go back to when these Forward looks were new and see and live with them in their natural environment. I would like to echo the sentiments of the member who said that I wish you’re car 60 more years of service.


Thanks! Yes, the hardest part will be to let it go and find a worthy heir for it, since I don't plan to become equally old I have nightmare visions of my car running around with cut door panels with speakers, new bucket seat interior, 20" rims, 350sbc, slipyoke and other "upgrades". People who know how to handle, maintain and appreciate these cars are dying out.
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TJ Mayes
Posted 2020-05-27 9:44 PM (#598860 - in reply to #598704)
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No plastic grill. However, the last owner had this aluminum speaker grill made that I am quite happy with.

Photo in link...



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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-05-28 9:48 AM (#598891 - in reply to #598800)
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1960fury - 2020-05-26 5:54 AM

Suddenlyits1960! - 2020-05-25 11:09 AM

I’m using the Valvoline too for the same reason. The VR-1 Racing oil also has the higher zinc,but it’s a conventional oil.

Thanks for sharing the 60th anniversary link. I had never seen it. Your Fury is beautiful. Hard to believe that 60 years ago such cars rolled off the assembly lines and now look at the crap that’s turned out. I too wish I could go back to when these Forward looks were new and see and live with them in their natural environment. I would like to echo the sentiments of the member who said that I wish you’re car 60 more years of service.


Thanks! Yes, the hardest part will be to let it go and find a worthy heir for it, since I don't plan to become equally old I have nightmare visions of my car running around with cut door panels with speakers, new bucket seat interior, 20" rims, 350sbc, slipyoke and other "upgrades". People who know how to handle, maintain and appreciate these cars are dying out.


Too true! Hopefully that will never happen. It would be a shame to have it survive all these years only to have it fall into the wrong hands.
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