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Expert Posts: 3967      Location: DFW, TX | Part number 1733477 is the standard 2x4 intake manifold for '57 300C and '58 300D 392 Hemi engines. So I would be expect to find these cast anytime from late 1956 through perhaps 1959. But 1961? Both of these intakes have a casting date in September 1961, one on the 15th and the other on the 18th. I'm trying to think of a reason these would have been cast. Marine engines? Refreshing dealer inventory for service replacement parts? I don't think trucks or industrial engines ever got a single 4-barrel Hemi, much less a 2x4. I'm just bringing this up because it seemed interesting. Maybe someone out there can solve the mystery? Edited by 57burb 2020-03-02 6:18 PM (B235F573-C3EC-4AB3-AC8F-F2EBD5C17F18.jpeg.jpg) (20200129_230247.jpg) Attachments ----------------  B235F573-C3EC-4AB3-AC8F-F2EBD5C17F18.jpeg.jpg (260KB - 287 downloads) 20200129_230247.jpg (168KB - 137 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | finsruskw - 2020-03-02 2:52 PM Industrial or truck most likely Every truck and every industrial Hemi I have ever seen had either a 1-bbl, a 2-bbl, or a pair of 1-bbl carburetors. Like I said, I've never even seen a single 4-barrel on one of those engines, much less a pair. jboymechanic - 2020-03-02 3:42 PM I can't help you, but those 4 barrel openings look pretty sloppy. Did somebody hack that manifold up? Yes they did. Probably trying to put an AFB or something like that on it that had bigger throttle plates than the WCFBs. 60 dart - 2020-03-02 4:35 PM its most likely a 62 , 413 fit -------------------------------------------------later Pretty sure a B/RB intake won't fit a Hemi.  ($_35.jpg) (37a9223b71a022bb261d235dd5954e98.jpg) (2832340-3eea5fe588e5a870bea95307ed6f3c06.jpg) (hemi.jpg) (dodge4.jpg) Attachments ---------------- $_35.jpg (18KB - 151 downloads) 37a9223b71a022bb261d235dd5954e98.jpg (79KB - 190 downloads) 2832340-3eea5fe588e5a870bea95307ed6f3c06.jpg (30KB - 133 downloads) hemi.jpg (56KB - 158 downloads) dodge4.jpg (115KB - 165 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | No kidding. Well, that would explain it!  Seems interesting that the racers were requesting the "flat" 392 intake instead of the better-shaped 331/354 300 intake. After 1964, the B/RB was making so much more power and the 426 Hemi was coming online, that there wouldn't be much demand for 2x4 intakes for an old dinosaur Hemi. | ||
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Expert Posts: 3031 Location: N.W. Fla. | 57burb - 2020-03-03 11:00 AM The 392 was the Hemi of choice in drag racing for many years. Didn't know about the later castings though.No kidding. Well, that would explain it! Seems interesting that the racers were requesting the "flat" 392 intake instead of the better-shaped 331/354 300 intake. After 1964, the B/RB was making so much more power and the 426 Hemi was coming online, that there wouldn't be much demand for 2x4 intakes for an old dinosaur Hemi. | ||
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Location: Under the X in Texas | The '53-54 dual quad intake of the New Yorker Specials (DSC_0060.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSC_0060.jpg (66KB - 173 downloads) | ||
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Location: Under the X in Texas | Mopar1 - 2020-03-03 8:34 PM StillOutThere - 2020-03-03 8:23 PM The '53-54 dual quad intake of the New Yorker Specials Special made ones for racing in Mexico. The pictured one has normal casting # for the 57-8 300 engines.
The pictured one is casting number 1530220. It is not the same as '57-58 ! (1530220.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1530220.jpg (407KB - 139 downloads) | ||
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Location: Under the X in Texas | There was no factory air cleaner engineered for the handful of '53-54 New Yorker Specials with dual quads. Aftermarket Hellings and Stellings units were used. (DSCF7235.jpg) Attachments ---------------- DSCF7235.jpg (81KB - 139 downloads) | ||
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Location: Under the X in Texas | '53-54 New Yorker Specials had the Ausco-Lambert disc brakes on all four wheels with a power brake booster. They have "Imperial Suspension" (large bearing Imperial rear axle, large bearing front spindles, Imperial coil springs front and Imperial leaf springs rear. These are solid lifter engines with adjustable tappets and roller rockers. The single WCFB carb or dual quad setup was available at owner's choice. I do not know who ordered the dual quad cars as I do not know what sanctioning body would have permitted their use. The car shown is the only known survivor. It came with the story that it was ordered by a Middle Eastern Shah as his entry in the Carrera Mexicana. When he learned his race entry was declined, he refused to take delivery from Chrysler Corporation. A Detroit dealership picked it up and put the car on their showroom floor to increase public interest in their new cars. That worked for a period of time and then it placed in back room inventory. A next door neighbor, Wesley Crites, to the dealership owner was a Detroit industrialist and the two had breakfast occassionally. Crites inquired about the car, purchased it and street drove it until 1958 when it was placed in the barn at the family farm and moved to a storage unit some years after his passing. Crite's widow tells the story that he was once clocked by the Michigan State Police exceeding 140 MPH. (1953ChryslerPanAm20168.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1953ChryslerPanAm20168.jpg (111KB - 150 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9647 Location: So. Cal | That one is a 1953 New Yorker. I have always liked the '52 because of the awesome hood ornament on them, but now I would rather make a clone of one of these. Do you know why the car was rejected? Was it because of the dual quads? Do you have pictures of these roller rockers? What did that mean - roller bearings between the rockers & shaft or a roller at the valves? Why didn't Chrysler use these roller rockers on the later race motors - or did they? I assume that these valve covers would have been the first to receive the bumps in them to make room for the valve adjusters. What compression ratio did they use? How about exhaust manifolds? Did they use the 4 bolt truck versions as well or just standard 1953 manifolds? I'm not sure when those 4 bolt manifolds originally came out. Give one of these old 331 motors enough compression, cam & breathing capability, and they have the potential to really haul. (1952 Chrysler Hood.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1952 Chrysler Hood.jpg (37KB - 181 downloads) | ||
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