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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-15 8:45 PM (#588872)
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I'm trying to buy this wagon and it's not in as good of shape as the seller advertised. It's pretty crusty and has bondo in the lower body. Other problems with the car includes missing the gas tank. I haven't been able to find a tank anywhere. He can't start the car and said he's never driven it but said that the transmission engaged when he had it running 8 years ago. He said the brakes don't work either. The exhaust system is shot. Also the car was full of mice so probably has wiring damage along with other issues. Stinks really bad, the upholstery is a wreck. All the exterior potmetal is bad. He claimed it just came out of 40 years of storage in a climate controlled garage. But unless that climate was a swamp, I'm not sure what he means.

Another big problem is that the rear underbody is badly damaged like they backed up over a boulder and smashed in the rear compartment. Is this area the same for all the '60-64 big wagons? Anyone have a gas tank?

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Mike McCandless
Posted 2019-10-15 10:09 PM (#588877 - in reply to #588872)
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Someone is going to end up paying over 10k for that thing tomorrow
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-15 10:21 PM (#588878 - in reply to #588877)
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Mike McCandless - 2019-10-15 7:09 PM

Someone is going to end up paying over 10k for that thing tomorrow


Probably me!
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-16 5:03 PM (#588914 - in reply to #588872)
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Well I bought it. So now my black 300F will have a garage companion. I'll post more pictures later. Looks a lot better washed off but still lots of issues. Especially the chrome and that pesky missing gas tank.



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Posted 2019-10-16 5:10 PM (#588915 - in reply to #588914)
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NicksGarage - 2019-10-16 2:03 PM

Well I bought it. So now my black 300F will have a garage companion. I'll post more pictures later. Looks a lot better washed off but still lots of issues. Especially the chrome and that pesky missing gas tank.


Looking good. Cleaned up real nice.

Here's a finished one you could use as a guide:

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/chrysler/new-york...



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Posted 2019-10-16 7:14 PM (#588922 - in reply to #588872)
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Posted 2019-10-16 8:22 PM (#588925 - in reply to #588872)
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I've never noticed before but the horizontal grill bars are the same style as the 60 DeSoto. Different openings so no interchange of course.

That New Yorker will be quite an eye catcher when it's back on the road.
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Posted 2019-10-16 8:38 PM (#588926 - in reply to #588915)
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56D500boy - 2019-10-16 2:10 PM

Looking good. Cleaned up real nice.

Here's a finished one you could use as a guide:

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/chrysler/new-york...



I love the red interior with the black. They used that car to try and get the bids up. Even that car has a few restoration issues. I'd like to see what they started with. I want to make mine a driver.
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Posted 2019-10-16 9:00 PM (#588928 - in reply to #588925)
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b5rt - 2019-10-16 5:22 PM

I've never noticed before but the horizontal grill bars are the same style as the 60 DeSoto. Different openings so no interchange of course.





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Posted 2019-10-16 10:10 PM (#588932 - in reply to #588872)
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Congrats. If you want one of these, it was probably the right decision to purchase it. If the bottom of the tank isn't rusted, I would cut the top off enough to work out all the dents well. Then weld it back up, maybe even put a fuel injection pump, baffle & pickup in there while you are at it. Then weld the top back on. After welding, clean up the welds nice, and then braze over the top of them. That will ensure that it is sealed well. Just clean out the tank well with dish soap first, fill it mostly with water and a steady flow of compressed air when you make the first cut so you are safe. I've done this multiple times. Looks like a great project even with its issues. Congratulations.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-16 10:26 PM (#588934 - in reply to #588872)
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I ordered the license plates for the car. Been wanting to get these for years.





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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-16 10:33 PM (#588935 - in reply to #588932)
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Powerflite - 2019-10-16 7:10 PM

Congrats. If you want one of these, it was probably the right decision to purchase it. If the bottom of the tank isn't rusted, I would cut the top off enough to work out all the dents well. Then weld it back up, maybe even put a fuel injection pump, baffle & pickup in there while you are at it. Then weld the top back on. After welding, clean up the welds nice, and then braze over the top of them. That will ensure that it is sealed well. Just clean out the tank well with dish soap first, fill it mostly with water and a steady flow of compressed air when you make the first cut so you are safe. I've done this multiple times. Looks like a great project even with its issues. Congratulations.


Problem is that there is no tank at all. Trying to get one from another wagon that has rust holes in it that are visible and they're not sure how fixable it is one they get it out. I have a friend who is a sheet metal fabricator and he's going to see what he can do.
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Posted 2019-10-17 3:55 AM (#588941 - in reply to #588872)
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Very nice project
- the long roofs are totally cool
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Posted 2019-10-17 4:33 PM (#588959 - in reply to #588872)
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IMO, the best looking year of all the FWLK wagons. One of the holy grails
4dr Hardtop, Power everything, what else is there to want?

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Posted 2019-10-20 3:19 PM (#589039 - in reply to #588872)
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Found a good gas tank, or I should say a good gas tank found me.

I was looking at my friend's '64 New Yorker Town & Country, which uses the same tank, and his has a splash shield in front of it. Anyone know what year they started doing that? I might have to fabricate one for mine to protect the tank.
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Posted 2019-10-20 3:38 PM (#589042 - in reply to #588872)
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I'll probably put disk brakes on the car with a dual master cylinder. Would like to find something that will fit with the auto pilot. Maybe a modern master with a remote reservoir? Lots of research to do.





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Posted 2019-10-20 5:23 PM (#589045 - in reply to #588872)
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My '62 NY wagon has a splash shield in front of the tank.
I installed disc brakes on both my '60 NewYorker and '62 NewYorker wagon.
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Posted 2019-10-20 5:43 PM (#589046 - in reply to #589045)
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BigBlockMopar - 2019-10-20 2:23 PM

My '62 NY wagon has a splash shield in front of the tank.
I installed disc brakes on both my '60 NewYorker and '62 NewYorker wagon.


That's good to know. I'm going to go look at parts on a '62 wagon next week.

Looking at options for doing the brakes, I also found that in '62 they moved the Auto Pilot servo over to clear the '62 style booster and master cylinder.
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Posted 2019-10-21 1:31 PM (#589076 - in reply to #588872)
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Not a good sign when your NOS taillight lenses arrive in a box looking like this. Creative place to deliver them to, never had that happen before. Fortunately the lenses weren't broken. The right hand one has a lot of scratches in it but they did advertise it that way. The ones on the car are cloudy and brittle.



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Posted 2019-10-21 11:25 PM (#589102 - in reply to #588872)
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Plastic polish will take out a lot of those scratches.
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Posted 2019-10-22 11:31 AM (#589119 - in reply to #588872)
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Parts are us, a wrecking yard in orland, ca. Has a beat 60 plymouth wagon. May still have a gas tank in it
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Posted 2019-10-22 4:32 PM (#589129 - in reply to #589119)
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Thanks but an gas tank found me. Haven't actually got my hands on it but should be no problem. Thanks for letting me know though.



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NicksGarage
Posted 2019-10-23 8:44 PM (#589167 - in reply to #588872)
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Anyone have a 1960 or 1961 Chrysler wagon that could show me what the gas tank stone shield looks like. I guess I'm missing that as well.
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Posted 2019-10-26 8:55 AM (#589304 - in reply to #588872)
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NicksGarage - 2019-10-15 8:45 PM

Another big problem is that the rear underbody is badly damaged like they backed up over a boulder and smashed in the rear compartment. Is this area the same for all the '60-64 big wagons?


The spare tire / rear cargo storage well is the SAME on the following wagons:
1960-61 Plymouth Suburban
1960-64 Chrysler
1960-61 Dodge
1962-64 Dodge Custom 880

That area always seems to be rusted out or dented / damaged. Finding one from a parts car in nice condition can be difficult. Since it’s just a floorboard, usually easier to cut out and make patch panels to weld in.
If it’s not rusted out you maybe able to hammer the metal back into shape
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Posted 2019-10-29 2:47 PM (#589481 - in reply to #589076)
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NicksGarage - 2019-10-21 12:31 PM

Not a good sign when your NOS taillight lenses arrive in a box looking like this. Creative place to deliver them to, never had that happen before. Fortunately the lenses weren't broken. The right hand one has a lot of scratches in it but they did advertise it that way. The ones on the car are cloudy and brittle.



I wonder if a headlight restoration kit would be a good way to go to "restore" those scratched tail lights. I have used them on my 11 year old daily Mazda's headlights and it went from horribly foggy to clear as new.

Perhaps you can test it on the old tail lights. I used this one:

https://www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-Headlight-Restoration-Headlights-Pro...
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Posted 2019-10-29 3:39 PM (#589482 - in reply to #589481)
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slimwhitman - 2019-10-29 11:47 AM

I wonder if a headlight restoration kit would be a good way to go to "restore" those scratched tail lights. I have used them on my 11 year old daily Mazda's headlights and it went from horribly foggy to clear as new.

Perhaps you can test it on the old tail lights. I used this one:

https://www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-Headlight-Restoration-Headlights-Pro...

I have a few lenses to practice on before I got after the NOSS one.
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Posted 2019-10-29 3:39 PM (#589483 - in reply to #589167)
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NicksGarage - 2019-10-23 5:44 PM

Anyone have a 1960 or 1961 Chrysler wagon that could show me what the gas tank stone shield looks like. I guess I'm missing that as well.


Here is the stone shield. I found 2 of them.





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Posted 2019-10-29 7:07 PM (#589493 - in reply to #589483)
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The scratches in that lens are pretty deep. You may want to sand it with 800 / 1000 / 1200 grit paper and then polish it. Wagon lenses are very rare!
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Posted 2019-10-30 10:45 AM (#589520 - in reply to #589493)
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57burb - 2019-10-29 6:07 PM

The scratches in that lens are pretty deep. You may want to sand it with 800 / 1000 / 1200 grit paper and then polish it. Wagon lenses are very rare!


...and that Sylvania kit has those sandpapers in the kit.
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Posted 2019-11-12 6:38 PM (#590072 - in reply to #588872)
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I still don't have the car home but I did get the title in the mail today. The guy I got the car from had told me he bought it from San Diego 8 years ago but then in the auction listing it said that the car was just pulled from 40 years of climate controlled storage. When I went to the auction and talked to him in person, he told me that it had been in a basement. Now being a San Diego native and a car guy since almost birth, I know that didn't add up. We don't have climate controlled garages or basements here. Anyway, I looked at the car myself and bought it based on what I saw.

What the title showed me is that it was titled in Indiana from at least 1976 through 2008. I looked up the name on the title, and the gentleman had passed away in 2016. Of course the title was signed by him last month, from the grave apparently. It didn't take me long to track down his son based on an obituary so I sent an e-mail seeking more information on the car. About 30 minutes later, I get a call from Plymouth Indiana from the son of the man on the title. And now the history of the car is coming into focus.

Gary tells me he bought the car around 1973 when he was a teenager and his father had to register it because he was too young to drive. He drove the car the car through high school and into college. Around 1978, he parked the car in a carport at a lake house and there it sat until 3 or 4 years ago when he took it to a couple shops to try and get it running. One was able to get it running off of a gas can as the gas tank was rusted out. So that explains why the tank is missing.

Gary is a really nice guy and he's going to write up the details and send them to me. He's trying to recall the name of the guy he bought the car from as that was someone who brought it from California.

Moral of the story is, never believe what people tell you when they are trying to sell you a car. You have to go look at it yourself and make up your own mind. Was the same deal with my 300F, got a story from the seller that just didn't add up and every time he told it the details were different.

The car is supposed to arrive tomorrow, and then the work begins to get it on the road again.
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Posted 2019-11-15 1:31 PM (#590168 - in reply to #588872)
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The car has made it home and the work to get it running and driving will begin this weekend.





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Posted 2019-11-15 4:28 PM (#590175 - in reply to #588872)
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Mock up with the wire wheels...





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Posted 2019-12-10 12:33 PM (#591399 - in reply to #588872)
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Got my build record from FCA yesterday. Pretty clear copy. They also let me know that the original selling dealership was Barish Chrysler-Plymouth located at 401 S La Brea Ave, Los Angeles, CA. Building is still there but not a car dealership anymore. Looks like they closed in 1995.





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Posted 2019-12-10 11:04 PM (#591431 - in reply to #588872)
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You can bet that the original owners of that car weren't poor.
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Posted 2019-12-10 11:28 PM (#591433 - in reply to #591431)
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Powerflite - 2019-12-10 8:04 PM

You can bet that the original owners of that car weren't poor.


With the options it has I figure it was over $6600 new. About $56,000 today.
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Posted 2019-12-12 9:09 AM (#591483 - in reply to #589119)
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Paul Hettick - 2019-10-22 11:31 AM

Parts are us, a wrecking yard in orland, ca. Has a beat 60 plymouth wagon. May still have a gas tank in it


Paul- PM sent regarding the 60 Plymouth that’s in junkyard.
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Posted 2019-12-13 2:46 PM (#591546 - in reply to #589042)
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I have a nearly perfect air cleaner for your New Yorker. It's yours for the shipping.

Doug in Fort Collins, Colorado
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Posted 2019-12-13 4:33 PM (#591556 - in reply to #591546)
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Douglas - 2019-12-13 11:46 AM

I have a nearly perfect air cleaner for your New Yorker. It's yours for the shipping.

Doug in Fort Collins, Colorado


Thanks, I'll send you a private message.
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Posted 2020-01-08 10:52 PM (#592661 - in reply to #588872)
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A fellow forum member offered me an air cleaner for my wagon for the cost of the shipping! Looks great on the car. My old one will be traveling to Australia to help out a friend who needs one for his car.




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Posted 2020-08-12 10:32 PM (#601985 - in reply to #588872)
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Pulled the backup lights today on the wagon to look inside the quarter panels to see what patching was done. This seems to be the only area on the car that is patched. A common rust prone area on the wagons.




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Posted 2020-08-14 9:37 AM (#602021 - in reply to #601985)
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Beautiful wagon! Congratulations on your new purchase. I would agree with the others who said these are the most beautiful of the Chrysler wagons. Love the boomerang twilights. I also like the 1960 Dodge polara 4dr Ht wagons too.
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Posted 2020-08-16 2:42 PM (#602128 - in reply to #588872)
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Could you post a picture of the data plate, please?
I need to confirm my guesses for Auto Pilot code 377…
Thanks.
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Posted 2020-08-17 11:01 AM (#602158 - in reply to #602128)
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frwl - 2020-08-16 11:42 AM

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Could you post a picture of the data plate, please?
I need to confirm my guesses for Auto Pilot code 377…
Thanks.


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Posted 2020-08-17 11:10 AM (#602159 - in reply to #602021)
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Suddenlyits1960! - 2020-08-14 6:37 AM

Beautiful wagon! Congratulations on your new purchase. I would agree with the others who said these are the most beautiful of the Chrysler wagons. Love the boomerang twilights. I also like the 1960 Dodge polara 4dr Ht wagons too.


1960 was a great year for the wagons. Not only did hardtop wagons appear but it was the first time that each brand had their own distinct body instead of just changing the taillights and trim of the same shared body. However Dodge had to compromise to get one body to work between the Dodge and Dart models.

The next year was a mixed bag. Chrysler using the '60 rear styling and Dodge being stuck with Plymouth bodies and then in 1962 the big Plymouth wagon was gone but Dodge and Chrysler had to use the Plymouth body again. '63-64 Chryslers sort of got their own again but Dodge soldiered on with the Plymouth one.
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Posted 2020-08-17 11:38 AM (#602162 - in reply to #588872)
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Thank you very much, Nick!

C8 = 298 = Power Vacuum Door Locks = $56.00
N2 = 312 = Heater and Air Conditioning – Dual Unit = $714.25
T3 = 423 = Radio Golden Touch Tuner (less Rear Seat Speaker) = $124.10
V1 = 441 = Solex Tinted Glass – All Windows = $43.10

SO 0511 = Scheduled on May 11, 1960
NUMBER 8921 = 21th Station Wagon built that day
BDY 379 = Chrysler New Yorker Town and Country 4door Hardtop Station Wagon, 9P
TRM 314 = Black Vinyl and Black Weave Upholstery
PNT BB1 = Formal Black monotone paint

So I knew it: Auto Pilot option coded on the IBM card and broadcast sheet only; and did not on the data plate…
PS, PB, PW are standard on NY and did not code too nowhere…
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Posted 2020-08-17 12:28 PM (#602163 - in reply to #602162)
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frwl - 2020-08-17 8:38 AM

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Thank you very much, Nick!

C8 = 298 = Power Vacuum Door Locks = $56.00
N2 = 312 = Heater and Air Conditioning – Dual Unit = $714.25
T3 = 423 = Radio Golden Touch Tuner (less Rear Seat Speaker) = $124.10
V1 = 441 = Solex Tinted Glass – All Windows = $43.10

SO 0511 = Scheduled on May 11, 1960
NUMBER 8921 = 21th Station Wagon built that day
BDY 379 = Chrysler New Yorker Town and Country 4door Hardtop Station Wagon, 9P
TRM 314 = Black Vinyl and Black Weave Upholstery
PNT BB1 = Formal Black monotone paint

So I knew it: Auto Pilot option coded on the IBM card and broadcast sheet only; and did not on the data plate…
PS, PB, PW are standard on NY and did not code too nowhere…


My 300F was built very close to the wagon with the VIN being 8403150442 and the wagon being 8703150046.

An interesting thing on the build card is that it had special order tires. The only thing I can figure that would be was blackwall Captive Air tires. It's interesting what they would code on the body tag.

The options my car is missing are roof rack (supposedly only dealer installed on the Chrysler wagon in '60), auto beam changer, sure grip, mirrormatic (they were dealer installed) and swivel seats.
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frwl
Posted 2020-08-17 12:55 PM (#602164 - in reply to #588872)
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I have some info about tires used on ’60 Chrysler:
It seems that blackwalls were coded as 40, 50 and 60… all other were whitewalls…
Correct me if I’m wrong

40 = Black Side Wall Tires – 8.00 x 14 Rayon (Windsor except Wagon)
42 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.00 x 14 Rayon (Windsor except Wagon)
46 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.00 x 14 Nylon (Windsor except Wagon)
50 = Black Side Wall Tires – 8.50 x 14 Rayon (Windsor Wagon and Saratoga)
52 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.50 x 14 Rayon (Windsor Wagon and Saratoga)
56 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.50 x 14 Nylon (Windsor Wagon and Saratoga)
59 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.50 x 14 Captive Air (Windsor Wagon Only)
60 = Black Side Wall Tires – 9.00 x 14 Rayon (New Yorker)
62 = White Side Wall Tires – 9.00 x 14 Rayon (New Yorker)
66 = White Side Wall Tires – 9.00 x 14 Nylon (New Yorker)
69 = White Side Wall Tires – 9.00 x 14 Captive Air (New Yorker Wagon Only)
96 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.00 x 15 Nylon Blue Strike (300F only)
99 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.50 x 14 Rayon Tubeless

I think the tire codes never stamped on body tags!
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NicksGarage
Posted 2020-08-17 3:48 PM (#602172 - in reply to #602164)
Subject: RE: 1960 Chrysler Town & Country project



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Here is a corrected version of your list. 300F tires are 9.00 x 14.


40 = Black Side Wall Tires – 8.00 x 14 Rayon (Windsor except Wagon)
42 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.00 x 14 Rayon (Windsor except Wagon)
46 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.00 x 14 Nylon (Windsor except Wagon)
50 = Black Side Wall Tires – 8.50 x 14 Rayon (Windsor Wagon and Saratoga)
52 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.50 x 14 Rayon (Windsor Wagon and Saratoga)
56 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.50 x 14 Nylon (Windsor Wagon and Saratoga)
59 = White Side Wall Tires – 8.50 x 14 Captive Air (Windsor Wagon Only)
60 = Black Side Wall Tires – 9.00 x 14 Rayon (New Yorker)
62 = White Side Wall Tires – 9.00 x 14 Rayon (New Yorker)
66 = White Side Wall Tires – 9.00 x 14 Nylon (New Yorker)
69 = White Side Wall Tires – 9.00 x 14 Captive Air (New Yorker Wagon Only)
96 = White Side Wall Tires – 9.00 x 14 Nylon Bluestreak (300F only)
99 = Special Order Tires - See below.

Special order tires would be any tire not available on the particular model even if they were available on other models. Below is a window sticker for a Windsor sedan showing 999 for the tires, interestingly typed onto the sticker, showing it got the Windsor Town & Country White Side Wall Rayon 8.50x14 tires.

Unless my wagon got 300F tires, which I doubt, I'm figuring it got Black Side Wall Captive Air tires, which were available from Goodyear even though not listed on the 1960 Chrysler order form. The second owner of the car bought it in 1973 and says he remembers that it didn't have a jack but did have a spare tire. The dealer gave them what looks like a truck bottle jack which was still in the car when I got it. By 1973 the Captive Air tires were no longer available and I'd assume that most people would have gotten a spare wheel/tire and jack once they couldn't use them anymore. No indication that my car had a jack installed under the middle seat.






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Dave L.
Posted 2020-08-18 2:49 AM (#602213 - in reply to #602172)
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Thanks, this is very interesting. As you and I have discussed Nick, my project car is a 1960 Windsor T&C wagon, converted by Richard Brothers, and sold through their unique relationship to Chrysler and it's dealers, into a combination ambulance/ hearse. Chrysler Historical provided me with documentation that Goodyear was trying to interest Richard Brothers in their CaptiveAir tires. I have 1960 Richard Brothers publicity photos that show white sidewall CapriveAir tires on their display vehicles. I also have 999 on the build sheet for my tires. Note I believe because it is a SWB Windsor it would have had 6" wide wheels, not the 6.5". So if I am understanding you correctly, perhaps my "999" was for a blackwall CaptiveAir option. No evidence of a jack.

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Suddenlyits1960!
Posted 2020-08-18 9:37 AM (#602218 - in reply to #602159)
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NicksGarage - 2020-08-17 11:10 AM

Suddenlyits1960! - 2020-08-14 6:37 AM

Beautiful wagon! Congratulations on your new purchase. I would agree with the others who said these are the most beautiful of the Chrysler wagons. Love the boomerang twilights. I also like the 1960 Dodge polara 4dr Ht wagons too.


1960 was a great year for the wagons. Not only did hardtop wagons appear but it was the first time that each brand had their own distinct body instead of just changing the taillights and trim of the same shared body. However Dodge had to compromise to get one body to work between the Dodge and Dart models.

The next year was a mixed bag. Chrysler using the '60 rear styling and Dodge being stuck with Plymouth bodies and then in 1962 the big Plymouth wagon was gone but Dodge and Chrysler had to use the Plymouth body again. '63-64 Chryslers sort of got their own again but Dodge soldiered on with the Plymouth one.


I agree 100 per cent. The 1960 hardtop wagons are stunning. Im also fond of the Dodge Polara hardtop wagon as well. I would really like to have a 60 Chrysler 2dr hardtop one day I’ve always wondered why the Chrysler wagons in 1960 kept the 1960 style boomerang tailights,but the cars used the car less attractive 61 style chrome fillers. I still wonder why anyone thought the change was acceptable after the beauty of the 60 leneses.
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