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Anybody used Eastwood's Internal Frame Anti-rust Aerosol Spray?
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-07-25 5:01 PM (#585230)
Subject: Anybody used Eastwood's Internal Frame Anti-rust Aerosol Spray?



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I am not particularly worried about my 56 Dodge's frame but I would like to clean and treat the inside of the rocker panels. I was thinking Rust Check's Rust Converter but I can only find this Eastwood product with its 24" spray-head hose.

Any BTDT's ??

https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-internal-frame-coating-14oz-aeroso...




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Posted 2019-07-25 6:07 PM (#585232 - in reply to #585230)
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-07-26 9:56 PM (#585272 - in reply to #585230)
Subject: Re: Anybody used Eastwood's Internal Frame Anti-rust Aerosol Spray?


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its not bad stuff, but its like a normal zinc primer and they are small cans. You probably need 6-8 cans

the problem is there is rust inside your frame and you will never get it out.

So you must "fully" cover it. If you dont cover it you will make it peel like an onion when water gets between the paint and the metal(rust).

The rust will peel it like an onion inside the frame and be a total nightmare.

I would suggest you use a cavity wax, this seals the rust inside and "runs" a bit inside. It will fully seal the inside of the frame, i dont like to use this on the outside as it can get messy. I use it on my new car because its great for winter cars.

You can use a small compressor and this kind of gun. There is a longer tube version i have. I have the 3 foot wand, you'll need it for these frames i think.

https://www.amazon.com/TCP-Global-Proofing-Undercoating-Gauge/dp/B07...

as for the cavity wax, I like one that doesnt run very much. It will run if you get crazy but it dries.

You can get 1 gallon for 59$.
https://petroleumservicecompany.com/undercoating-in-a-can-black-wax-...

This is better than Eastwood cavity wax and alot cheaper. They have single cans also.

This is less runny than Eastwoods also and just goes on alot better.

if your frame was brand new you might be good with zinc paint but itll never hold on an old rusty inside frame.




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56D500boy
Posted 2019-07-26 11:34 PM (#585274 - in reply to #585272)
Subject: Re: Anybody used Eastwood's Internal Frame Anti-rust Aerosol Spray?



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Thanks Mike. You might have missed the fact that I am just going to use the Eastwood stuff inside my rocker panels, not the frame of the car. My car has very little rust and I don't think that inner frame rust is threatening the integrity of the car.

But your info is extensive and it will serve as a reference for others (and myself - should I feel the need)



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58coupe
Posted 2019-07-27 12:12 AM (#585276 - in reply to #585230)
Subject: Re: Anybody used Eastwood's Internal Frame Anti-rust Aerosol Spray?



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I have used LPS-3 to prevent rust. It comes in spray cans but I think you can also get it in gallons. Spendy but goes on wet and dries (if not too thick) works well.
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Posted 2019-07-27 7:32 AM (#585278 - in reply to #585230)
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I don't know if it is good, but I do know the best stuff can't work if it does not reach every nook an cranny. Get a compressor and a cavity spray gun. When you do the whole car it is cheaper than a rattle can too!
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-07-27 3:58 PM (#585295 - in reply to #585230)
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Yeah LPS is a cavity wax... good stuff, best part about it is it smells like cherries It might be owned by the same company that owns Petroleum Services. (they own about 20 companies).

Eastwood used to use LPS untiil they brought it in house in their name for more money.

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56D500boy
Posted 2019-09-10 6:59 PM (#587341 - in reply to #585230)
Subject: RE: Anybody used Eastwood's Internal Frame Anti-rust Aerosol Spray?



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Right or wrong, I proceeded with Plan A, with one modification (okay two)

1. I vacuumed out the *INSIDE* of the rocker (passenger side this round) using an attachment that I made for my RIGID shop vac using a piece of PEX hose and a length of 5/8" OD/1/2" ID clear vinyl hose and some duct tape. The vinyl was flexible enough to be fed into the rocker through the four (2 each door opening) quarter-sized holes that the factory left/provided. I also "scraped" the inside of the rocker with a length of clothes hanger wire. I kept vacuuming until nothing more could be seen or heard being sucked into the vacuum. (Maybe 10 minutes per door opening, moving the wire and the hose this way and that).

2. When that was done, I was going to use the Eastwood paint but I inadvertently discovered that the Eastwood nozzle and spray hose fit on a can of RUST CHECK brand "Rust Converter". Since I had previous experience with the Rust Converter, I taped off the little screw holes on the door sill (sill plate obviously still removed) and after marking the spray hose at about 2" back from the nozzle, I proceeded to use the Eastwood spray hose to blow Rust Converter into the cavity, via the four factory access holes (2 per door sill). I managed to not get any over spray on my carpet or seat bottoms, etc. (It would be a better idea to do this "improvement" when the carpet is out (but it was fine because I knew when I saw the mark on the hose to be careful with the spray).



I cleaned out the spray hose with some Mopar Combustion Chamber cleaner (a wicked solvent) and then blew the hose out with compressed air. To be certain, I soaked the end of the hose and brass spray nozzle in solvent overnight.

3. Today I used the Eastwood Internal Frame paint. I used one can on the passenger side. I pushed the hose up as far to the front through the front most front door sill hole as I could and then, later, as far to the back as I could through the rear most sill hole in the rear door sill. There was paint dripping out of the rocker panel drain holes on the bottom of the rocker so I know that I didn't skimp on the paint. I did get a bit of paint dripping on the sill when I pulled the hose out (finger off the trigger) to move it to the next sill hole. Took about 15 minutes including adding some more masking tape along the carpet edge as a precaution.

I will let it dry for a day or so before I take a peak with my fibre-optics BoreScope and see how well I did. Not sure if I can capture a screen image or not.

I presume that if I didn't get full coverage, I could always go with more paint *OR* the waxy spray that some of you have suggested.

In any event, I will not be driving this car purposely on rainy days. So how wet it would get is moot. "NOT very".





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Old Ray
Posted 2019-09-10 9:05 PM (#587347 - in reply to #585230)
Subject: RE: Anybody used Eastwood's Internal Frame Anti-rust Aerosol Spray?



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Hi Dave, this was on another site, probably not applicable to what your doing but;

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1596099-beware-of-eastwood-brand-aerosols.html

(BEWARE OF EASTWOOD BRAND AEROSOLS!)

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56D500boy
Posted 2019-09-10 9:38 PM (#587348 - in reply to #587347)
Subject: RE: Anybody used Eastwood's Internal Frame Anti-rust Aerosol Spray?



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Thanks Ray. Different product. I did have to shake the snot out of the internal-frame paint to get the solids flowing with the solvent but once that was done, things went well.

I got curious and ran the "endo" scope into the cavity and all I can see is green. No visible rust which was the objective. I'm going to call it a success (enough).

Now to go through the same procedure on the other side. Oh boy. I can't wait for the fun to begin.



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56D500boy
Posted 2021-08-30 11:15 PM (#614615 - in reply to #585274)
Subject: Re: Anybody used Eastwood's Internal Frame Anti-rust Aerosol Spray?



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56D500boy - 2019-07-26 8:34 PM
Thanks Mike. You might have missed the fact that I am just going to use the Eastwood stuff inside my rocker panels, not the frame of the car. My car has very little rust and I don't think that inner frame rust is threatening the integrity of the car.


Probably still true 2 years plus later, *BUT* while I had the driver's side of the car jacked up today to improve the bottom rear of the left front fender, I blew a can and a bit of Rust Check Brand Rust Converter (using the Eastwood internal frame paint nozzle/wand) into the middle section left frame rail. I will need to go over the inside of the rear frame "hump" and forward from the forward "X" body mount location. Probably take another can for the left side and then two cans for the other side.

Once they have dried/set up, I will use probably 2 cans per side of the 3M cavity wax on the inside of the frame.

REFERENCE for the 3M cavity wax:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=75863&...




Edited by 56D500boy 2021-08-30 11:17 PM
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