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Missed this one: 1961 Plymouth 2dr Suburban 413 Sonoramic
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-11-08 7:24 PM (#573187)
Subject: Missed this one: 1961 Plymouth 2dr Suburban 413 Sonoramic



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Yikes! Let's go Surfin'!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLXvATxHHiQ

https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0516-239625/1961-plymouth-suburban-wago...

Body stripped to bare metal
NOS parts throughout
Dealer-installed 413/410 HP short ram engine
Dual 4-barrel carburetors
MSD ignition
4-speed transmission with overdrive
3.54 Dana rear end
Power brakes with front discs
Two NOS Hydro-vac brake boosters
Added power steering
Two-tone White and Blue paint
NOS interior materials
New Michelin tires
Restoration photos included

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57burb
Posted 2018-11-08 9:17 PM (#573195 - in reply to #573187)
Subject: RE: Missed this one: 1961 Plymouth 2dr Suburban 413 Sonoramic



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Ridiculous. "Dealer installed" is an auction house way of saying "we have confirmed this car was not built with this drivetrain."

It's a cool car, a ram inducted manual trans two door wagon. That stands on it's own. No need to fluff it up with unprovable claims.

Edited by 57burb 2018-11-09 9:58 AM
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Apollo 61
Posted 2018-11-08 10:09 PM (#573199 - in reply to #573195)
Subject: RE: Missed this one: 1961 Plymouth 2dr Suburban 413 Sonoramic



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Agreed,awesome wagon though,did it meet the sales estimate?
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SavoyPlaza
Posted 2018-11-09 7:22 AM (#573223 - in reply to #573187)
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This one belongs to Chuck at Chuck's Classic Cars in TN. He built it many years ago, I first saw it about 11 years ago and it is nice.
He builds high-end MoPar muscle cars mainly.

I believe this auction ended around $46K, reserve not met.
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1960fury
Posted 2018-11-09 1:03 PM (#573229 - in reply to #573195)
Subject: RE: Missed this one: 1961 Plymouth 2dr Suburban 413 Sonoramic



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57burb - 2018-11-08 9:17 PM

Ridiculous. "Dealer installed" is an auction house way of saying "we have confirmed this car was not built with this drivetrain."



Maybe not the case with 61 Plymouths, as these were officially available with a 413 and these were allegedly (for some reason) all dealer installed. So, if that is true, this car could be one of them. To me it makes no difference if the engine was intalled in a new car that never saw any miles at the factory, or a couple of miles away at the dealer.
The car above however is really a rare shortram, which was, afaik, not available for 61 Plymouths, but I could be wrong.
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-11-09 5:51 PM (#573243 - in reply to #573229)
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1960fury - 2018-11-09 10:03 AM
...The car above however is really a rare shortram, which was, afaik, not available for 61 Plymouths, but I could be wrong.


The short rams were available on the special race motors in '60-'62, and standard on the 300J in '63. I would assume that a 413 motor in a '61 Plymouth would have been for racing purposes, so in that respect, maybe the short ram is correct for it, but I'm mostly guessing. But if this were the case, I would expect to see the racing history behind the car. If it has no history, then it is all just make believe.

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1960fury
Posted 2018-11-09 7:21 PM (#573247 - in reply to #573243)
Subject: RE: Missed this one: 1961 Plymouth 2dr Suburban 413 Sonoramic



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Powerflite - 2018-11-09 5:51 PM

1960fury - 2018-11-09 10:03 AM
...The car above however is really a rare shortram, which was, afaik, not available for 61 Plymouths, but I could be wrong.


The short rams were available on the special race motors in '60-'62,


Are you sure about 60? The brochures, press kits and magazines don't mention it.
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Powerflite
Posted 2018-11-09 7:52 PM (#573249 - in reply to #573187)
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I'm not sure. Just what I have read on them.

http://www.chrysler300club.com/uniq/allaboutrams/allaboutrams.html
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1960fury
Posted 2018-11-09 8:23 PM (#573250 - in reply to #573249)
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Powerflite - 2018-11-09 7:52 PM

I'm not sure. Just what I have read on them.

http://www.chrysler300club.com/uniq/allaboutrams/allaboutrams.html



Where did you read about 60/61 Plymouth shortrams?

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Apollo 61
Posted 2018-11-09 11:57 PM (#573264 - in reply to #573250)
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I have always been a fan of oddities cars. 4drs and wagons with Manuel floor shifts,multi carbs,factory tachs etc. Just being a 61 ply wagon is a oddity ,then 2dr wagon,then crossram,etc. wether or not it's factory, dealer or just built its pretty cool wagon. Question,Are there any 1961 4drs or wagons listed in the Darrel Davis book as having been built from the factory? Here is oddity I've been looking at(yes I know it's not FL!

Edited by Apollo 61 2018-11-10 12:13 AM
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Apollo 61
Posted 2018-11-10 12:11 AM (#573265 - in reply to #573264)
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https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/d/1964-galaxie-390-tri-power-4/...
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hemidenis
Posted 2018-11-10 8:20 AM (#573272 - in reply to #573187)
Subject: Re: Missed this one: 1961 Plymouth 2dr Suburban 413 Sonoramic



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Could you order a 1961 Chrysler 300G painted in prime (not color) from the factory? Not from the brochures...Could you stop, the whole assembly line, painting of any available color the top-of-the-line vehicle? Yes, you could.

Who knows, maybe you could order them to swap the engine too, which is a lot easier, if you knew the right dealer or person...

Something I learned over the years, is that nothing is "set in stone" with these cars...
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