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albjerryg
Posted 2018-11-07 11:55 AM (#573115)
Subject: Push Button Unit


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I have a 1958 Saratoga and I feel sure one of the springs on my push button transmission unit is very weak. I wanted to know how to change it and how difficult is it to replace? Thanks Jerry
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-11-07 12:49 PM (#573117 - in reply to #573115)
Subject: RE: Push Button Unit



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albjerryg - 2018-11-07 11:55 AM

I have a 1958 Saratoga and I feel sure one of the springs on my push button transmission unit is very weak. I wanted to know how to change it and how difficult is it to replace? Thanks Jerry


Jerry: In your previous 58 Saratoga thread, I replied:

56D500boy - 2018-04-11 3:42 PM

As for your shifter, I strongly suggest that you go to this website:

http://www.mymopar.com/index.php?pid=109

Find the 1958 Chrysler and Imperial service manual and download and save it (It will go into your Download Directory). When it is finished downloading, open it up and save it in the directory of your choice.

While it is open go to Section XI - transmission (starts at page 262/504) and page down to page 296/504 where there is a specific section on "Servicing the Gearshift Control Unit".

Beware of the need to disconnect the battery before going in there. (Because of the back-up light and starter switches)

Good luck.

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Did you not see that?

If not, download the manual and go to Section XI. There are some hints on page 268 of 504. Also page 629/1268 of the 55_58 Mopar Parts Catalog pdf also at MyMopar.com. The PN for the springs seems to be 1639 970. A quick eBay search on "1639970 spring" turns up a package of 5 for sale:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mopar-NOS-Gearshift-Push-Button-Springs-P-Fl...





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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-11-07 1:28 PM (#573120 - in reply to #573115)
Subject: Re: Push Button Unit


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rofl 72$ for some springs
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-11-07 1:35 PM (#573121 - in reply to #573120)
Subject: Re: Push Button Unit



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mikes2nd - 2018-11-07 1:28 PM

rofl 72$ for some springs


Probably something adaptable at Lowes or Hope Depot.

https://www.lowes.ca/building-wire-electrical-cable/hillman-543018-u...

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albjerryg
Posted 2018-11-07 3:53 PM (#573129 - in reply to #573115)
Subject: Re: Push Button Unit


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OK I got the spring ordered just need to take it apart. Thanks Jerry
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-11-07 4:04 PM (#573131 - in reply to #573129)
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albjerryg - 2018-11-07 3:53 PM

OK I got the spring ordered just need to take it apart. Thanks Jerry


Here are some photos of a Powerflite pushbutton box to give you more ideas of what you will find.





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albjerryg
Posted 2018-11-07 6:34 PM (#573143 - in reply to #573115)
Subject: Re: Push Button Unit


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Good the pictures help thanks Jerry
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albjerryg
Posted 2018-11-14 7:46 PM (#573540 - in reply to #573115)
Subject: Re: Push Button Unit


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Well I got it fixed and it was not the springs. The bottom piece that screw into the push button bracket had the wrong screw on the back side and it was causing the D button not to fully return. So I have a set of spring if there is any interest. Thanks Jerry
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-11-14 8:54 PM (#573547 - in reply to #573540)
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albjerryg - 2018-11-14 7:46 PM

Well I got it fixed and it was not the springs. The bottom piece that screw into the push button bracket had the wrong screw on the back side and it was causing the D button not to fully return. So I have a set of spring if there is any interest. Thanks Jerry



Well that is good news. Did you happen to take any photos that show us where the issue was so we could avoid the same problem in the future?

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1960fury
Posted 2018-11-15 9:11 AM (#573567 - in reply to #573115)
Subject: Re: Push Button Unit



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So far, I 've never heard about a failing push button unit. Even when the return springs break, it still works. It is a very good design.
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albjerryg
Posted 2018-11-15 9:36 AM (#573568 - in reply to #573115)
Subject: RE: Push Button Unit


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Looking at the picture it is the screw that holds the bracket and chrome piece together at the lower right. It had a long thin screw instead of a short fat chrome plated screw. I took the old screw out and the D button worked fine I put the wrong screw back in and it would not eject properly. Some kind of way it was twisting the frame ??? jerry
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albjerryg
Posted 2018-11-15 9:38 AM (#573569 - in reply to #573115)
Subject: RE: Push Button Unit


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Looking at the picture it is the screw that holds the bracket and chrome piece together at the lower right. It had a long thin screw instead of a short fat chrome plated screw. I took the old screw out and the D button worked fine I put the wrong screw back in and it would not eject properly. Some kind of way it was twisting the frame ??? jerry
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albjerryg
Posted 2018-11-15 9:47 AM (#573571 - in reply to #573115)
Subject: RE: Push Button Unit


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Looking at the picture it is the screw that holds the bracket and chrome piece together at the lower right. It had a long thin screw instead of a short fat chrome plated screw. I took the old screw out and the D button worked fine I put the wrong screw back in and it would not eject properly. Some kind of way it was twisting the frame ??? jerry



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albjerryg
Posted 2018-11-15 9:51 AM (#573572 - in reply to #573115)
Subject: Re: Push Button Unit


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Picture got turned so it is the screw in the back upper holding the chrome piece to the bracket.
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