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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9893      Location: Lower Mainland BC | I am in the process of re-installing *ALL* of the front grill area bit on my 56 Dodge after doing some painting. In doing so, I noticed that my OE passenger side parking light housing is not as nice as I would like. Furthermore, the "spare" housing I bought to get a good lens while waiting almost 2 years for George Laurie to come through (he did, but it was just a few weeks short of 2 years), is much better. I would swap in them in a heart beat *BUT* (there's always something), the seller of the spare housing (or somebody before him) cut the wiring near the connection strip end (and removed the OE terminals on the ends). The best solution would be to swap my OE wiring into the "spare" housing but it looks like the two pin socket was crimped into the housing and won't want to come out without making a mess. Please tell me I'm wrong and that there is a easy way to swap the wiring/sockets on these two housings. See below.  Edited by 56D500boy 2018-10-15 9:42 PM (56DodgePassengerSideParkSignalLightHousing_OE_BackSide.jpg) (56DodgePassengerSideParkSignalLightHousing_OE_SocketSide.jpg) (56DodgePassengerSideParkSignalLightHousing_SpareUnit_BackSide.jpg) Attachments ----------------  56DodgePassengerSideParkSignalLightHousing_OE_BackSide.jpg (94KB - 271 downloads) 56DodgePassengerSideParkSignalLightHousing_OE_SocketSide.jpg (166KB - 281 downloads) 56DodgePassengerSideParkSignalLightHousing_SpareUnit_BackSide.jpg (127KB - 251 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9893 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Thanks Sven. Or I could just cut both sets of wires and crimp/solder a slice and seal with heat shrink (close to the housing so it is more hidden). ?? | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9893 Location: Lower Mainland BC | 56D500boy - 2018-10-16 1:51 AM Or I could just cut both sets of wires and crimp/solder a slice and seal with heat shrink (close to the housing so it is more hidden). ?? :) I reviewed the options that were suggested and discovered one or two other ones. However, I decided that they all had some draw backs of some form. So my final solution was to splice the wires together in the middle of the rad support area. I attached the OE wire connectors (yellow and brown) to the bus bar on the firewall and then cut it at approximately the middle of the rad support. Then I did the same with the wires from the new (better) housing and socket. At the suggestion of my neighbour I cut the plastic insulation off two red (18-22 gauge) crimp connectors and staggered the connection. I crimped the connectors very diligently (hard) one at a time. I wrapped the first one in electricians tape. Ditto the second (but less tape). Before I finalized things, I checked that both park and signal lights worked (they did). Then I slid the 1/4" x 3" heat shrink tubing (that I had remembered to slip over one of the wire groups before the crimping (DUH)) over the splice area. I using a couple old fashioned wooden matches, I used their heat to shrink the tubing. Seems fine and since it will be on the back side of the rad support, it will never really be a) seen or b) stressed. Should be good. Took the car for a spin. Nice to have it back together again. Now *IF* I would just remember to re-install the horns.  Edited by 56D500boy 2018-10-19 11:42 AM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9893 Location: Lower Mainland BC | normsclassicradio - 2018-10-19 6:29 AM I think you did a good choice moving the spice up to the core support. Less road splash there. Probably. But I am a bit OCD sometimes. Case in point, yesterday I found a right side 56 Dodge park/signal light with unmolested, un-cut, intact wiring from the socket to the connector strip on the firewall. It was relatively inexpensive (for an OCDer to rationalize  ) and it was on Buy it Now. So I bit and bought it. It will be a few days before it shows up so I decided to dig out one of my "spare" Park/Signal housings and investigate the removal of the socket so I will know what to do when I get this "new" one. Bottomline: When the socket and wiring was attached to the pot metal housing, it was inserted from the rear and then crimped into place at the front (inner) side of the housing. So removal involves prying the socket at the back and collapsing the crimp to the point that you can pull it through the hole in the pot metal housing. Admittedly, I did a cr@p job of removal because I did NOT know what I was doing. When I do this again (twice), I think that I will split the forward crimp in a couple of places so it will collapse easier when I am prying from the rear. I think the crimp could be sliced at the equivalent to 6, 9 and 12 o'clock positions, leaving the other side, the 12 - 3- 6 side, alone. Installation would (will) involve slight bending in of the sliced part of the crimp and then inserting the socket from the rear and re-crimping the front. Or at least that is what I think now. I have one more trial before I really get down to it with this "new" socket and virgin wiring . REFERENCES: 1. Re-habbing Front Lighting Wiring: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=68378&... 2. 55-56 Dodge (and others) wiring diagrams (showing yellow and brown wires for the RH side Park/Signal light): http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=70141&... Photos, starting with the "new" eBay RH Signal/Parking Light with the good wiring and then my crude/exploratory removal of a different socket from a different housing: Edited by 56D500boy 2023-02-28 10:24 AM (eBay55-56DodgeParkingSignalLightHousingAndGoodWiring_2_Small.jpg) (eBay55-56DodgeParkingSignalLightHousingAndGoodWiring_3_small.jpg) (55-56DodgeRHParkingSignalLight_BackSide_SocketReadyToBePryedOut.jpg) (55-56DodgeRHParkingSignalLight_BackSide_SocketRemoved.jpg) (55-56DodgeRHParkingSignalLight_FrontSide_SocketRemoved.jpg) (55-56DodgeRHParkingSignalLight_FrontSide_SocketReinsertedAfterRemoval.jpg) Attachments ---------------- eBay55-56DodgeParkingSignalLightHousingAndGoodWiring_2_Small.jpg (140KB - 66 downloads) eBay55-56DodgeParkingSignalLightHousingAndGoodWiring_3_small.jpg (146KB - 68 downloads) 55-56DodgeRHParkingSignalLight_BackSide_SocketReadyToBePryedOut.jpg (146KB - 62 downloads) 55-56DodgeRHParkingSignalLight_BackSide_SocketRemoved.jpg (146KB - 63 downloads) 55-56DodgeRHParkingSignalLight_FrontSide_SocketRemoved.jpg (147KB - 64 downloads) 55-56DodgeRHParkingSignalLight_FrontSide_SocketReinsertedAfterRemoval.jpg (149KB - 59 downloads) | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 345 | OR....you could use a Pico 5440PT socket as you have already cut the OE socket out. The 5440 clips into a 3/4” hole. Then you have pigtails to work with. A little shrink sleeve will seal the wires up. Just a thought?? Del Attachments ---------------- BA463B84-EA26-4519-B9B5-E8E97F0960BE.jpeg (104KB - 67 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9893 Location: Lower Mainland BC | dels56 - 2023-02-28 7:35 AM OR....you could use a Pico 5440PT socket as you have already cut the OE socket out. The 5440 clips into a 3/4” hole. Then you have pigtails to work with. A little shrink sleeve will seal the wires up R Sorry Del. You missed the point. My sockets are/were 100% fine. However, recently I just didn't like the fact that I had spliced the wire between the connector strip and the RH park/signal light. And even though I had made the splice in about the middle of the rad support run and it was heat shrunk, hidden and 100% working, I didn't like it. Hence buying a RH park/signal light with untouched wiring. But good to know in case a socket goes to cr@p. | ||
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