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fivespeedv8
Posted 2018-06-11 9:39 PM (#565051)
Subject: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?


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1959 Dodge

I've got my build card from Chrysler historical, and finally cleaned up the trim plate so I could read it (it had 2 layers of paint), and I'd like to figure out if they "match."

The late great Neil Vedder helped me decode the punched card several years ago, but back then he did not (yet?) have substantial info on '59 LA cars. 

Wondering if there is a source for do-it-yourself decoding, or if someone here has the know how?

 

 

 





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56D500boy
Posted 2018-06-11 10:59 PM (#565058 - in reply to #565051)
Subject: RE: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?



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I think it's more relying on the magicians who conjure up the decoding results out of thin air.

Or so it seems to me.



Edited by 56D500boy 2018-06-11 11:00 PM
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-06-12 12:02 AM (#565064 - in reply to #565051)
Subject: RE: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?


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fivespeedv8 - 2018-06-11 9:39 PM

1959 Dodge

I've got my build card from Chrysler historical, and finally cleaned up the trim plate so I could read it (it had 2 layers of paint), and I'd like to figure out if they "match."

The late great Neil Vedder helped me decode the punched card several years ago, but back then he did not (yet?) have substantial info on '59 LA cars. 

Wondering if there is a source for do-it-yourself decoding, or if someone here has the know how?

 

 

 



I can't help with any LA built cars. Neil didn't share any of that info with me.

Greg
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fivespeedv8
Posted 2018-06-12 8:51 AM (#565076 - in reply to #565051)
Subject: Re: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?


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Hmmm... And when you pass on, will you also chose to take your all knowledge with you? I wish I knew something of value that I could leave behind for posterity.
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-06-13 11:35 PM (#565127 - in reply to #565076)
Subject: Re: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?


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fivespeedv8 - 2018-06-12 8:51 AM

Hmmm... And when you pass on, will you also chose to take your all knowledge with you? I wish I knew something of value that I could leave behind for posterity.


Hmmm---- No worry. You'll find out!!

Greg
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2018-06-16 12:20 AM (#565193 - in reply to #565058)
Subject: RE: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?


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If it came out of thin air, someone as simple as you could have figured it out!!

Or so it seems to me.

Greg
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RDP
Posted 2018-06-17 4:42 PM (#565261 - in reply to #565051)
Subject: Re: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?



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Ok, I'm not a specialist, but it seems easy.

SO 0226 - schedule order date february 26 1959
NO 5139 - schedule number
MODEL MD2L - Coronet series
BT 312 - body type 2dr HT
PT PN4 - paint Coral / Rose Qartz
TR 949 - trim
SP 043 - special order?

EW4 - electric window (power window 304 in the build card)
M2 3 - ?
M5 1 - ? no idea, but many LA build cars have this number

now build card
transmission 293 - torqueflite
power seat 303
power window 304
its highly optioned Coronet - accessory group 2,4,5,7. easy to check
swivel seat, dimmer switch, hood ornament... et cetera


anyone knows what it condition code? and the last digit in this line T 7?

Lou, what is your dealer's name?



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Chrycoman
Posted 2018-06-17 11:35 PM (#565272 - in reply to #565261)
Subject: Re: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?



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Attached is the IBM card sorted out - almost.

Cannot make out what 466 is on the IBM card. Do not have a 466 listed on my 1959 sales codes.

Also not sure what "Condition" is.

The "7" in the top right corner with the "T" below is for "Tracer". And I show #7 as "Car OK'd".

Also not sure of 658 - Distributor.

For your data plate -

EW4 - 4 :
Only have 304 - Power Windows

M2 - 3 :
293 - Torqueflite
303 - Power Steering
373 - Power Package (4-bbl carb and dual exhaust for 326-cid V8 engine)

M5 - 1 :
361 - Swivel Seat
391 - Auto Headlamp Dimmer
501 - Undercoating







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Chrycoman
Posted 2018-06-18 2:41 AM (#565277 - in reply to #565051)
Subject: Re: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?



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466 - Solex Glass with shaded windshield

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RDP
Posted 2018-06-18 8:27 AM (#565282 - in reply to #565051)
Subject: Re: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?



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Bill, thanks for explaining the "tracer" point.
Probably "condition 7" is related to "tracer 7". My card also has two "7".
Very interesting, the SG area on the body plate is empty, but on the build card is selected. In my car is the same.
M5 1 - maybe swivel seat or undercoating, my car has no dimmer.

which means a single "3" behind the car serial number?

I can not read: foam ??? / padded sun visor.
Do you know what is written there?



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hondaman1974
Posted 2018-06-18 1:22 PM (#565291 - in reply to #565051)
Subject: Re: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?


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hi, sorry to jump in on this thread, just have a quick question. when you sent your info to Chrysler historical did you pay the 55 dollar fee? I had read an earlier thread and stated if you send money they return it. I have a 55 custom royal im getting ready to send for ibm card. thanks in advance!!!
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RDP
Posted 2018-06-18 2:14 PM (#565292 - in reply to #565291)
Subject: Re: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?



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hondaman1974 - 2018-06-18 7:22 PM

when you sent your info to Chrysler historical did you pay the 55 dollar fee?


They sent absolutely free
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hondaman1974
Posted 2018-06-18 3:09 PM (#565294 - in reply to #565051)
Subject: Re: Is there yet a definitive guide to decoding? Or do we still rely on good samaritans ?


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thanks rdp!!!!!
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