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Hyfire
Posted 2018-03-29 9:05 PM (#560694)
Subject: 1955 Chrysler Paint Questions



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  1.) What roof colors were available on a White '55 New Yorker?

  2.) What color schemes were available with a Sadle Tan interior on the NY???

 

  ANY HELP IS APPRECIATED!!!!

 

  Thank you for any help!!!

 

  Josh



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RDP
Posted 2018-03-30 12:00 PM (#560743 - in reply to #560694)
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-03-30 12:18 PM (#560745 - in reply to #560694)
Subject: RE: 1955 Chrysler Paint Questions



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Hyfire
Posted 2018-03-30 5:10 PM (#560776 - in reply to #560694)
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THANK YOU GUYS!

This is extremely helpful!

I had no idea the 300 and New Yorker shared the same White and Red paint formulas. This info will help me find more clues on the car I'm working on... THANKS!

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Hyfire
Posted 2018-03-30 5:33 PM (#560779 - in reply to #560694)
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  I'm thinking the New Yorker below is an ALL White car that had the roof painted Tango Red AFTER it left the factory.   Based on that list you guys provided, it could have been a factory Platinum & Tango car though. 

 

  I'm guessing it could have been a completely different color as well and just painted White/Red when it was converted to a fake 300 in 1955.  What's puzzling me is that it looks like they painted the dash and dash cover in White as well.  I don't know why/what they were covering.  This car was destroyed many decades ago, but I'm semi-confident the build sheet is coming to light.  I'd like to try to confirm any identifying info before the build sheet is found.  So I can be sure it's the right car.

 

 

 

 





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56D500boy
Posted 2018-03-30 6:13 PM (#560786 - in reply to #560779)
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Hyfire - 2018-03-30 5:33 PM
I'm thinking the New Yorker below is an ALL White car that had the roof painted Tango Red AFTER it left the factory.  


Could have been a factory car, like this one:

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Hyfire
Posted 2018-03-31 1:47 AM (#560805 - in reply to #560694)
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I initially thought that was the paint scheme too, but I’m positive the car is a NYer model, which had a painted insert on the body. Take a look at this photo. Petty was trying to hide the NYer trim with tape. His car is a faux-300, made up of the 300 parts borrowed from c-300 VIN #001. The San Juan Motors 300.

It’s a very interesting story. I couldn’t figure out a lot of it until I asked Richard Petty about C300 Vin# 001. He told me he remembered converting the NY with VIN #001’s front clip, trunk, trim, emblems and 300 engine parts. He said him and his dad did so at San Juan Motors in one of their bays.



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mstrug
Posted 2018-03-31 6:04 AM (#560811 - in reply to #560694)
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56D500boy
Posted 2018-03-31 11:05 AM (#560823 - in reply to #560811)
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mstrug - 2018-03-31 6:04 AM
Another pic... and page 9:


The pic is obviously a scale model (but it does show the red roof)

Here is the picture on pg. 9 of the "Who goes racing?" thread. I could imagine that the colour of the roof is beige masking tape. I see a single spear of stainless trim on the side. I've seen the photo before and didn't notice the 56 Dodge in the background, probably a privateer in a D500 or D500-1.

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Hyfire
Posted 2018-03-31 11:08 AM (#560825 - in reply to #560694)
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Yes, that's Petty's final iteration of his car (the model). At Daytona he took all the 300 parts off C-300 Vin 001 and used them to turn his New Yorker into a 300. After the race he returned (almost) all the 300 parts to Vin 001 and then took his car back to NC and let the car sit for a month as a New Yorker until he got factory 300 parts. By then he did the body work to cover the NY trim holes.



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Hyfire
Posted 2018-03-31 3:01 PM (#560837 - in reply to #560823)
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56D500boy - 2018-03-31 8:05 AM
mstrug - 2018-03-31 6:04 AM Another pic... and page 9:
  I could imagine that the colour of the roof is beige masking tape. I see a single spear of stainless trim on the side.

 

  Yes, the roof was hiding a two-tone scheme for sure.  I just don't know if it was red or another color.  The red color roof showed up in April (a month after Daytona), but it's also possible that the car may have had a different color roof under that tape and Lee just painted it red after Daytona since his '54 car was Red & White too (so was his 1956 Dodge).  So we know it was a factory NY'er two-tone for sure.  Just not what the factory roof color was from the factory.

 





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Hyfire
Posted 2018-03-31 3:31 PM (#560840 - in reply to #560694)
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While this may seem insignificant, it will be very important to determine just what engine is in the very first Chrysler 300 today. It has been suggested by Don Petty that Vin#001 probably has Lee Petty's race engine in it still. This actually makes a lot of sense, being that they put all the 300 parts onto Petty's New Yorker for the big NASCAR event. When the race was over, instead of taking everything apart again, they simply swapped the NY'er race engine and trans into the 300 and called it a day.
If this is true, it seems it may have been a little underhanded for Petty to leave Daytona afterwards with the fresh 300 engine block and trans.... but that would make sense too because when I contacted Richard Petty he was very open and eager to talk about what he and his dad did to these two cars until I mentioned that New Yorker block somehow ending up in the 300. The tap of info quickly turned off. I could be wrong, but the feeling I got was that maybe nobody else knew this at the time. Again, that is only an assumption.

At any rate, Chrysler has been very helpful with my other Chrysler 300 racecar, and they've agreed to attempt to document Vin#001s NYer engine as well. If build records show that this NY'er engine was shipped in a 1955 New Yorker coupe with two-tone paint and perhaps the eastern half of the country... I think it would be very safe to conclude with a fair amount of certainty that it is indeed Lee petty's engine and trans in the car today. I have spoken to EVERY owner of the car (or immediate surviving relative) and I've verified that since Daytona 1955 the car has NEVER had an engine swap. I just need to get my ducks in a row for when the build sheet is located. While I've already verified that the sheet metal and trim on the car today was ran on Petty's Daytona Grand National car. I think it would be just as important to verify the heritage of the engine and trans that currently sit in the car today.
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