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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-03-05 5:04 PM (#559291)
Subject: A. G. Backeast (Data Tags)



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I just received my Data Plates from A. G. Backeast. I ordered one for my Blue and White
1958 DeSoto Spring Special, and one for my Spanish Gold and White 58 DeSoto.
This is what happened.
First, I sent them an email stating that I needed a Data Plate for each car. I told them that
one was rusted and the other was missing. Carl, whom I presume is the owner, asked me if the
one that was missing is for an Adventurer Convertible. I knew what he was getting at. It says
on their website that they don't make fantasy tags. So anyway, I told him that both tags were
for Firedomes. I sent him the pictures of the tags that I needed done and the info for each. I also
sent him a picture of the cars in question. So he sent me an email stating that it would be $275 for
each, a total of $550. And to send a Check or Postal Money Order, the pictures and info to his son Brett.
So I mailed it on Feb. 27th, and I received the tags on March 5th. (Less than a week).
Sure, it's a lot of money for two little pieces of metal, but it was needed and I like them.
Thanks Carl and Brett.




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1960fury
Posted 2018-03-05 6:20 PM (#559297 - in reply to #559291)
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are they required by law?! otherwise, i don't get it.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-03-05 9:11 PM (#559303 - in reply to #559291)
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that's getting pretty crazy high priced...

I guess if your the only guy making it you can gouge people...

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-03-06 5:11 PM (#559356 - in reply to #559297)
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1960fury - 2018-03-05 6:20 PM

are they required by law?! otherwise, i don't get it.



Yes. The Law Book of Forward Look cars states;
All Forward look cars will display their Data Plates at all times.
When such item has become rusty, or has fallen off, said item must be
replaced as soon as possible.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-03-06 5:18 PM (#559359 - in reply to #559303)
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mikes2nd - 2018-03-05 9:11 PM

that's getting pretty crazy high priced...

I guess if your the only guy making it you can gouge people...




Actually, I have heard that others paid $400 to $450 for each. So I think they came down a little on the price.
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FIN_NV
Posted 2018-03-06 10:45 PM (#559369 - in reply to #559291)
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Thats a lot of Scaroles!
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-03-07 8:43 PM (#559426 - in reply to #559369)
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That's great Kurt!  Some may look at the price and see it as expensive - it is! 

However, these are individual items, custom made. 

By the time you bought all the correct punches and made the rolled bead plates, I bet you would have AT LEAST that much into it in blood, sweat, toil, and tears!

 

To me, if your car is missing the data plate or it is damaged beyond recognition, and you care about such things - A.G Back East provides a high-quality and relatively affordable service.

These images are proof positive.

 

If you could care less about such things, yeppers - it's a total rip-off!

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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-03-07 10:57 PM (#559432 - in reply to #559291)
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those embossed stamps might not be that hard to find :)... but at 300$ a tag, the hardware gets paid off quickly.

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bbrasse1
Posted 2018-03-08 5:44 PM (#559476 - in reply to #559291)
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How did you tell him what codes to put on it? Did you send a copy of your punch card from the historical society?
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-03-09 9:59 AM (#559511 - in reply to #559476)
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bbrasse1 - 2018-03-08 5:44 PM

How did you tell him what codes to put on it? Did you send a copy of your punch card from the historical society?



The Punch cards were never mentioned. I did all the research, and figured out what I needed on the plate that was missing.
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=20263&...
The punch cards did help ME figure it out.
These are the pictures that I sent them.



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56RatKing
Posted 2018-03-10 1:17 AM (#559569 - in reply to #559291)
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So you paid a guy 500 bucks to use a punch stamp on a piece of steel. A local machine shop could have done that over a lunch break when the guy was bored. You got taken.

Seeing as they aren't original, and he did no research - he literally just took a punch and smacked in the letters and numbers of the sizes you wanted.. To each their own I guess, but I really really don't get it.
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wizard
Posted 2018-03-10 5:01 AM (#559573 - in reply to #559291)
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This is not an easy task - there have been a matrix fabricated and also a matrix for the option figures - they all line up perfectly.

The price is high, but the initial costs was surely high for making the matrixes
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bbrasse1
Posted 2018-03-10 7:14 AM (#559574 - in reply to #559291)
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If your plate is bad like his, I don't see many other ways to get one and most people don't have the tools and equipment to do it. Mine is rough but readable.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-03-10 10:43 AM (#559578 - in reply to #559291)
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yeah I'm looking into it for fun. I found a reasonable priced "debosser" what is very flexible in handling spacing.

But you need one set of those letters, one set of those numbers and something to crimp the edges. The letters and fonts are pretty fine.

He's running on pure profit I'm sure by now but how many does he actually do?

I think the hardware would run 1500$ from what I'm seeing.
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56RatKing
Posted 2018-03-10 1:35 PM (#559585 - in reply to #559291)
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Um no. A set of punches, letters and numbers at most should cost you 100 bucks. If you have a vise, you can bend and crimp steel however you want.

500 dollars is absolute robbery. If you can't swing a hammer and line up a punch, sure pay all you want. Otherwise - yah, you got scammed. There is zero special equipment needed for this, and anything the guy tells you otherwise is a load. Hell If I had known this was a thing I could have punched one out for you, I have a set of punches - it's not hard.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-03-10 7:26 PM (#559611 - in reply to #559291)
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do you have the exact font? This is debossed, you cant punch it. If you don't want perfection you could make this pretty easy. You can punch into like a hard rubber but it still wont look right.

I guess a set of fonts/numbers are probably pretty cheap. I was thinking like 500$ for a set of fonts. Manufacturers are set up for all kinds of deboss/emboss fonts I understand so you can have a set of fonts made for anything.

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Ev's62Chrysler
Posted 2018-03-10 8:09 PM (#559613 - in reply to #559291)
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Let's see your handiwork, RatKing.
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ABloch
Posted 2019-06-14 11:35 PM (#583466 - in reply to #559291)
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Yeah RatKing. I'd like to see what you can do in thirty minutes. (Only if you're bored though)
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-06-15 2:15 PM (#583479 - in reply to #559291)
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yeah I think he is lowering his prices. they are pretty high but if your the only guy in town... I think someone else is doing body tags now.

a custom set of punches is only 100$? and then you need someway to align them, your going to punch by hand?
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mikes2nd
Posted 2019-06-15 2:17 PM (#583480 - in reply to #559291)
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Thats two sets of punches also and the bracketry to align them and a simple press to put the ridges. This is aluminum so its very soft at least.

250$ isnt unreasonable from what I see
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