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56D500boy

Posted 2018-02-04 7:55 PM (#557523)
Subject: One year and maybe 200 miles = Chinese wheel cylinder failure

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Nice. (NOT).

I had new brakes put on the car last February. New eBay wheel cylinders and shoes (Probably Chinese). They seemed fine for the rest of the year and into winter.

I have had the car out of the garage a few times over the winter so far. Last time I had it out, I noticed that the left front brake was very grabby, just getting the car out of the garage and parking it on the street. BUT I didn't thing too much of it. Seemed fine (or at least better) when I drove the car around the block before I put it back in the garage.

Today, it was sunny and warm (11 C) so I had to get the car out and into the sun. Backing it out, I felt the brakes grab again. When I went forward a bit (it's a multipoint turn getting out of the garage at the back alley) and applied the brakes they really grabbed. Backed up again, took some effort to get the car moving. Moving ahead and then braking it was very much like a solid lock up (at 1 mph). Not good.

Same deal on the street. Hard stop at 1 mph.

I let the car idle while I played with a few things and then decided to put it back in the garage while it was still sunny (and so I could watch some of the SuperDuperBowl). Moving ahead was almost impossible. Moving in reverse was better so I just backed up and turned into the alley. Multipoint turns into the garage. Going ahead really locked up the wheel. Spun the rear tire on moist (dew) pavement backing up, breaking the wheel loose. And so on, with reverse possible and forward difficult.

Eventually got it back into the garage properly.

I guess I can't ignore it now. Wheel is going to have to come off and then the drum (when I will learn how to dis-adjust the centerplane - dual wheel cylinder shoes) and figure out how "fun" I'm looking at.

And why didn't I want to abandon the 12" D500 Chrysler drum brakes for front discs again?

Edited by 56D500boy 2018-02-04 7:57 PM

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Posted 2018-02-04 8:01 PM (#557524 - in reply to #557523)
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because millions of cars are running disc brakes fine with much better performance, maintenance and reliability than drums.

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Posted 2018-02-05 8:43 AM (#557539 - in reply to #557523)
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I love original cars and thats why i love disks, disk help to keep everything original also give more power (reduce power drain) and add to driveabilty with lesser rotating/unsprung weight. another plus is they are absolutely maintenance free. i examined the new ultra cheap chinese wheel cylinders closely, the quality of the rubber seals is no comparison to original.

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Posted 2018-02-05 9:42 AM (#557543 - in reply to #557523)
Subject: Re: One year and maybe 200 miles = Chinese wheel cylinder failure

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Most probably the yellow cylinders leaked out brake fluid on the brake shoes. I've seen yellow brake cylinders which did not have the bore in axis with the brake shoes with the result of binding of course. This was an issue that couldn't be fixed, so it was straight in the vertical archive with those cylinders.
The cylinders were mounted in a Chevelle 67......

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Posted 2018-02-05 10:39 AM (#557545 - in reply to #557539)
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1960fury - 2018-02-05 8:43 AM
I love original cars and thats why i love disks

Umm...I understand the benefits of disk brakes but my 56 Dodge D500 came with the "special" Chrysler 12" x 2.5" drums as part of the D500 package, which is what I wanted to keep (as original).

I had showed the Chinese wheel cylinders to my NOS parts source guy and he thought that they looked pretty good. But obviously there is an issue and brake fluid has leaked out onto the new (Chinese) shoes.

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Posted 2018-02-05 2:12 PM (#557550 - in reply to #557545)
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56D500boy - 2018-02-05 10:39 AM

1960fury - 2018-02-05 8:43 AM
I love original cars and thats why i love disks

Umm...I understand the benefits of disk brakes but my 56 Dodge D500 came with the "special" Chrysler 12" x 2.5" drums as part of the D500 package, which is what I wanted to keep (as original).

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"umm"......You didn't quote my correctly. i explained why. I'm running disks since the 90s and drive alot. without the disks my car wouldn't be there anymore, with no originality left.
i look at brakes like i look on tires. exchangeable wear parts that have to be safe. when it comes to braking, 1 inch or even less can make a huge difference.

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Posted 2018-02-05 3:04 PM (#557553 - in reply to #557523)
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Sid, I think bigger rotors for a 15" wheel will work fine for our cars, in 14" is just a fiscal impossibility, maybe with 4 wheel disk brake on 14" but that is a mayor modification. The 14" set up are engineered for cars thousands of pound lighter..

Dave, you may have a return spring issue too.

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Posted 2018-02-05 3:09 PM (#557554 - in reply to #557553)
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hemidenis - 2018-02-05 3:04 PM

Sid, I think bigger rotors for a 15" wheel will work fine for our cars, in 14" is just a fiscal impossibility, maybe with 4 wheel disk brake on 14" but that is a mayor modification. The 14" set up are engineered for cars thousands of pound lighter..

Dave, you may have a return spring issue too.

yup, but 15" wheels are correct for our cars, cop cars had them, at least they are period correct. and i thought the 56s had 15" wheels as OE? rear axles can be just as easily converted to disks as fronts, especially on fl cars with independent parking brakes.

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Posted 2018-02-05 3:23 PM (#557556 - in reply to #557523)
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Sid, what we do with the hubcaps?

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Posted 2018-02-05 4:54 PM (#557559 - in reply to #557556)
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hemidenis - 2018-02-05 3:23 PM

Sid, what we do with the hubcaps?

55/56 can keep their hubcaps, as these had 15" wheels. you can mount about any 14" hubcaps to 15" or larger wheels. just needs some fabrication. if i wanted i could easily mount any 57-61 stock plymouth hub caps to my 16" wheels. 14" covers to 15" rims shouldn't be a problem.

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Posted 2018-02-05 7:46 PM (#557574 - in reply to #557559)
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So, you bought cheap crap on ebay and now you're surprised that you are having problems ? If you use quality parts and properly adjust the brakes, you should not have problems.

Not everything that is made in China is garbage. It comes down to quality control. Name brands have better QC on their imported products than no-name off-label junk.

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Edited by ronbo97 2018-02-05 7:49 PM

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Posted 2018-02-05 7:57 PM (#557576 - in reply to #557523)
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You're right Sid, that a '56 runs 15" wheels, but the original 15" wheels won't work with the large disc brakes. So you have to purchase new wheels. Not a big deal because your hubcaps will still work on the new wheels, but an added expense. But at least you can purchase 7" wide wheels to run 235x70 tires on it to improve the handling. If you can get discs with 12" rotors for your car, I would swap it out in a heartbeat. I have run old drums for quite a while, but if you are going to put a lot of miles on the car like Sid and I, you are going to save yourself a lot of headache and possible accidents if you swap to a good set of discs.

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Posted 2018-02-05 8:52 PM (#557577 - in reply to #557574)
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ronbo97 - 2018-02-05 7:46 PM

So, you bought cheap crap on ebay and now you're surprised that you are having problems ? If you use quality parts and properly adjust the brakes, you should not have problems.

Not everything that is made in China is garbage. It comes down to quality control. Name brands have better QC on their imported products than no-name off-label junk.

Ron

Thank you for your kindness, empathy and understanding Ron.

BTW: What I bought was what I could find at the time that said that it worked on a 56 D500. I had no intention of going out to buy "crap". And my local NOS parts guy didn't have NOS wheel cylinders nor did my local Vancouver BC FLAPs stores (Lordco and/or Napa). So at the time, I bought what I could find.

Edited by 56D500boy 2018-02-05 9:00 PM

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Posted 2018-02-05 8:59 PM (#557578 - in reply to #557576)
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Powerflite - 2018-02-05 7:57 PM

You're right Sid, that a '56 runs 15" wheels, but the original 15" wheels won't work with the large disc brakes. So you have to purchase new wheels. Not a big deal because your hubcaps will still work on the new wheels, but an added expense. But at least you can purchase 7" wide wheels to run 235x70 tires on it to improve the handling. If you can get discs with 12" rotors for your car, I would swap it out in a heartbeat.

Again, I was trying to keep the "coolness" of the Dodge D500 brake package intact. If the car had come with 11" x 2" brakes, I would have gone with disc brakes (front only) from AAJ in Portland. However, since it came with the Chrysler Windsor 12" x 2.5" brakes, I was and am trying to keep them.

I already have 85 Dodge Diplomat wheels on the car and am running 235/75/15 tires. I hope to run American Racing Torq Thrust mag wheels at some point. (Assuming that I can get the back set figured out)

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Posted 2018-02-05 10:21 PM (#557581 - in reply to #557523)
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The proper offset is 0 for the front and 1/2" positive for the rear. If you don't go very wide on your tires, you can get away with 0 offset on the rear too. To transform offset to backspacing, divide the width in half and add 1/2" to it. Then add the offset to the result and that will give you the backspace. This was for my '56 Plymouth, but I expect the Dodge to be the same.

Edited by Powerflite 2018-02-05 10:22 PM

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Posted 2018-02-06 7:06 AM (#557596 - in reply to #557581)
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Powerflite - 2018-02-05 10:21 PM

The proper offset is 0 for the front and 1/2" positive for the rear.

positive about that? so 56 had different front/rear wheels? that would be a surprise for me but i don't know much about the 1rst fl generation. all the fl stock rims i have ever measured are 1/2" positive offset.

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Posted 2018-02-06 9:53 AM (#557599 - in reply to #557523)
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They used all the same rims, but the rims were only 4.5" wide so the offset didn't really matter. But if you want to go to a much wider tire, you need to take careful measurements to find out where the center sits, and this is what I found. With a wide tire, too much offset in the front will hit the frame and suspension during hard turns.

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Posted 2018-02-06 10:02 AM (#557600 - in reply to #557523)
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actually in the front, offset affects suspension geometry, regardless of rim size. if you run with much less than 1/2" positive or negative offset there is more bumpsteer.

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Posted 2018-02-07 9:04 PM (#557663 - in reply to #557523)
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I had one that was bad right out of the box and I bought quality ones. Sometimes it is just the luck of the draw. I think the ones I got were made in Mexico.

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Posted 2018-02-08 7:54 PM (#557711 - in reply to #557523)
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Okay. Let me say two things:

1. I was wrong about the Chinese wheel cylinder(s) failure (at least on the left front wheel) Wo dàoqiàn ??? - I apologize to the Chinese for doubting the quality of their goods
2. As a result, I am confused about the cause of the brake "jamming".

It was quite nice out here today (Vancouver BC area - 11 C and sunny - NO RAIN!!!) and after talking to my NOS parts guy this AM to get assurance that he has the parts to rebuild the wheel cylinder(s), if they need it, after going to lunch with my wife, I decided that I better investigate first hand.

Jacked the left front up (on the frame), put a jack stand under the frame, took the wheel off, etc. eventually wiggling the drum off (without backing off the shoes) and discovered complete dryness. Nothing leaking. Shoes are NOT wet in any way (might have to double check that). Wheel cylinders are dry on the outside.

(See photos below)

Strange angle that the wheel cylinder rods were taking - quite the angle. I pried them a bit with the OE wheel wrench and the whole shoe moved (the Centre-plane shoes are theoretically free to slide in the groove between the two parts of the support plate). I am not sure what the rods were doing like that *OR* whether the shoes were somehow binding in the support plate. I could move them by hand quite easily. They are also held in place by retainers and springs.

The trailing shoe showed a weird ripply (minor) wear pattern which I presume is some kind of "chatter" (which I never felt (much?)) when I was driving the car in the fall.

More investigation tomorrow. Good news is while I have the car jacked up and the wheel off, I can easily access the starter to investigate it and also clean up the side of the engine and a few other areas.

Edited by 56D500boy 2018-02-08 8:10 PM

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Posted 2018-02-08 11:08 PM (#557722 - in reply to #557711)
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It sounds like the driver's side brakes are making contact before the passenger side. That's why it pulls to the left. You need to re-adjust all four wheels so that all the brakes make contact at the same time.

Don't know what that pattern is that you are getting on the one shoe. Is your drum warped ? I'd sand it off and see what happens.

You've packed your wheel bearings with way too much grease. having all that residual grease on the spindle is a problem waiting to happen. Wipe it off.

Ron

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Posted 2018-02-09 1:12 AM (#557724 - in reply to #557722)
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ronbo97 - 2018-02-08 11:08 PM
It sounds like the driver's side brakes are making contact before the passenger side. That's why it pulls to the left. You need to re-adjust all four wheels so that all the brakes make contact at the same time. Don't know what that pattern is that you are getting on the one shoe. Is your drum warped ? I'd sand it off and see what happens. You've packed your wheel bearings with way too much grease. having all that residual grease on the spindle is a problem waiting to happen. Wipe it off. Ron

Thanks for your comments Ron.

I will check the adjustment. But it wasn't just a grab on the left side backing the car out of the garage and driving it out to the street, it was the "lock" which is bothering me most. I checked the service manual in it mentions lubricating the shoes where they slip into the center support frame. I don't know if that was done or not (I had the brakes done at a local shop) but it will be done when I put this back together tomorrow or Saturday.

I don't think the drum is warped but then again, I haven't checked for warpage, just diameter.

I will wipe the grease off the spindle but I will also check the bearings to make sure that they are still packed. I can't remember if I was the one who packed the bearings before I took the car into the shop (on a flat deck because it had zero brakes at that point - which must have been Nov. 2016, not Feb. 2017).

Thanks

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Posted 2018-02-09 1:59 AM (#557726 - in reply to #557523)
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To me, it seems like the brake shoes doesn't have the same radius as the drum - now that the brake shoe has been grinded to approximately the same radius, there is no clearance left.

In the old Days, the brake shoes were grinded to the same radius with the appropriate clearence - since then, I presume that this type of work has been banned due to the risk of asbetos dust. Check with a truck work shop, they might still do this type of work.

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Posted 2018-02-09 9:53 AM (#557744 - in reply to #557523)
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Your lower wheel cylinder pin may not be seated correctly on the brake shoe. Looks like it's pointed down which leaves the appearance of being seated by looking at the top of the pin.

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Posted 2018-02-09 1:24 PM (#557761 - in reply to #557523)
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Those Marks on the Shoe are probably from when the brakes locked and the drum was forced over them,,

OK, from memory this problem comes up every so often, and the solution always appears the same,,

1,, The Shoe springs should be fitted into the outer Loop of the Shoe, The gives more return pull pushing the cylinder pistons fully home..

2,, The shoes need to have a chamfered edge on them..

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Posted 2018-02-09 1:39 PM (#557763 - in reply to #557523)
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What you say on No. 1 is true for the rear brakes, but the front brakes use the smaller coil return spring like what he has; and these should insert into the holes where he has them. So it looks correct to me. You can try chamfering the edge to make it better, but I have not had luck with that. One thing that has worked for me is making sure the little tab on the shoe (under the adjustment cam) is pointing in the right direction. Some of the new shoes have these tabs pointing in the wrong direction, and correcting it can help quite a bit. But these front drums are sensitive and you could end up playing with them for quite a while before you figure out what it needs to always work.

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Posted 2024-03-18 10:15 AM (#634273 - in reply to #557724)
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Many years later, one of those wheel cylinders really did bite me in the @ss.

Got the car out for the first time for real yesterday. Made it about 10 ft before the front brakes siezed on the right side. I got it to release by backing down the alley. Then idled out to the street (corner lot) but when I started to make the turn, it siezed again (I hadn't touched the brake pedal, just turned the steering wheel). I forced the car forward with the gas pedal about 50 feet (wheel was NOT rotating) and parked it. Tried backing the adjustment off but that didn't work.

Eventually took the wheel and drum off to clean and examine the shoes and the drum. NO obvious issues. Had a neighbour observe while I gently applied the brakes. He said the lower wheel cylinder did NOT retract when I released the brake.
Hmm....

I removed the original (to me) return spring and rear front brake shoe. Then I popped the boot off the lower right wheel cylinder and examined the piston. It was unhappy.

Partially covered with a dark varnish-like coating on the sides, mostly in one area (probably the bottom side). I cleaned that off with Goof OFF and a piece of 400 grit (very lightly) sand paper. Got the cylinder back together (getting the boot on was a bit of a struggle but eventually it snapped on).

The brake fluid was very dark.

Cleaned the shoe thoroughly and applied silicone brake grease where it slides in the Total Contact plates. Got the cylinder rod back in place.

Found the new (aftermarket) return springs and tried to install one on the rear shoe. No go. I think the spring coils are stuck together with paint.

Had to quit for supper/evening meal and leave the car on the street (still jacked up, wheel and drum less) over night for only the second time in almost eight years. It is still there this AM.

Have doctors appointment this AM but when that is over I will solve the return spring issue and get things back together and HOPE it all is better.

Plan to a) hunt down a new wheel cylinder and b) replace the existing brake fluid that has been in there since Feb. 2017. (I realize now that it is time not mileage that is important with brake fluid).

This is my wheel cylinder diagram:

Edited by 56D500boy 2024-03-18 10:18 AM

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Posted 2024-03-18 9:40 PM (#634281 - in reply to #557523)
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It is just lack of use Dave...cars don`t like it. Will happen to all cylinders if you use anything but silicone fluid. This is my experience anyway. You should open all wheel cylinders
and clean and possibly hone and empty the system and fill with new DOT-3-4 fluid.

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Posted 2024-03-19 11:19 AM (#634286 - in reply to #634281)
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22mafeja - 2024-03-18 6:40 PM
It is just lack of use Dave...cars don`t like it. Will happen to all cylinders if you use anything but silicone fluid. This is my experience anyway. You should open all wheel cylinders
and clean and possibly hone and empty the system and fill with new DOT-3-4 fluid.

Thanks Ralf. That is pretty much my plan. I got things back together (cleaned the upper right wheel cylinder piston first) and then, with the adjustment backed all the way off, I got the car back in the garage using only the E-brake - just to be safe.

To be real safe, I have ordered all new front brake wheel cylinders from Rock Auto. Should be here Thursday. There were no Raybestos wheel cylinders for a 56-59 Chrysler Total Contact in town (and maybe not Canada??)

In the meantime I can start the draining/re-filling process.

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Posted 2024-03-20 11:09 AM (#634304 - in reply to #634286)
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Started draining/flushing the brake system, starting at the right front (for now). I wanted to see how bad the "rust" was.

The fluid I am getting out is dark but clear, not rusty, so that is better than anticipated.

Edited by 56D500boy 2024-03-20 11:10 AM

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Posted 2024-03-21 9:51 PM (#634348 - in reply to #634304)
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Spent some time today bleeding/flushing the right front cylinders while I was waiting for FedEx to deliver the Rock Auto order.

It arrived early than expected but I decided to NOT install the new wheel cylinders just yet. I want to see *IF* I could have survived without them.

So I dismantled the right front brakes again and gave the upper and lower cylinders a bit of a clean and thumb "hone" (400 grit Wet and Dry sandpaper around my thumb - dry with some brake clean and paper towel).

Might work. If it doesn't, then I will install the new wheel cylinders.

The new wheel cylinders have steel pistons (the 2017 versions are aluminum). The new wheel cylinder springs are wound to create an "expander" at the cup end. The 2017 versions did not and there was NO expander, just spring on rubber. I'm using the new springs with the 2017 cups and pistons.

Didn't quite get it all back together and bled. That will happen tomorrow.

From today:

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Posted 2024-03-21 10:46 PM (#634349 - in reply to #557523)
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the problem with the chinese assy it is actually the garbage rubber parts... Springs and such are also questionable quality...

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Posted 2024-03-21 10:51 PM (#634350 - in reply to #557523)
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I remember years ago, I strongly questioned in theses forums, my fel-pro gaskets set including many Asian (i will no complaint about Japanese) parts and Pretty much nobody agreed with me. At that time probably, 15 years ago, I assured that eventually all the aftermarkets parts for our cars will be Chinese garbage..... Of course nobody agree with me on that either...

Well sad but true I was pretty much right...

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Posted 2024-03-25 2:40 AM (#634407 - in reply to #634348)
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56D500boy - 2024-03-21 6:51 PM
Didn't quite get it all back together and bled. That will happen tomorrow.

Well a few things got in the way but I did get things back together and bled yesterday. Backed off the adjustment on the right front today and took the car for a short drive (literally around the block).

NO brake locking. YAY! BUT no real brakes either

- but no locking which was my goal.

Tomorrow (Monday) I will repeat the disassembly and cleaning on the left front followed by flushing and bleeding (Miti Vac style).

Then a proper adjustment of both front brakes and another trial run.

Worse comes to worse, I will either install the new wheel cylinders or actually install the front disc system I investigated last year (I like to have back up plans for my back up plans)

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=76959&...

Edited by 56D500boy 2024-03-25 2:44 AM

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