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dodge59
Posted 2017-12-11 5:53 PM (#554101)
Subject: Is it a real 57 d500 with hemi ?



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Is it a sure thing that if it has a 325 hemi 4 bl, it's a d500 ? or did the non d500 57 dodges come with the hemi engines also ? This is on a 57 dodge custom royal 2 dr ht model. Thanks !



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56D500boy
Posted 2017-12-11 7:43 PM (#554108 - in reply to #554101)
Subject: RE: Is it a real 57 d500 with hemi ?



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dodge59 - 2017-12-11 5:53 PM
Is it a sure thing that if it has a 326 hemi 4 bl, it's a d600? or did the non d500 57 dodges come with the hemi engines also ? This is on a 57 dodge custom royal 2 dr ht model. Thanks !


I am not an expert but I think I know some stuff about 56 and 57 Dodge D500s. Only D500s got the hemi engines. In 1956 it was a 315. In 1957 it was a 325 (not 326) and that would be in a D500. If 57 is like 56 you could get the D500 option in any level of Dodge, i.e. Coronet, Royal and Custom Royal. You could even get it in the 56 wagons.

A real 57 D500 engine will have an engine number like KD500 - nnnn (starting at 1001), e.g. KD500-12345. The engine number is stamped on the block on the left side of the engine, top, just in front of the valley cover, near the water pump manifold and oil filler tube. Like this one:



IF you owned the car, you could apply and pay for some history of the car and in return receive a photocopy of the original IBM car which should have the KD500 engine number on it, like this one:



What All-par says about the 57 D500:

"For 1957, a Dodge brochure clearly stated that the “Super D-500 Engine” was “available at moderate extra cost on all models... Full hemispherical combustion chamber with double rocker arms. Compression ratio, 9.25:1.... 325 cubic inches.” It was rated at 310 hp and 350 lb-ft and included dual exhausts, heavy-duty double breaker distributor, heavy-duty air cleaner, and dual four-barrel carburetors.

The “D-500 engine” was also sold, “at little cost on all models. All specifcations same as Super D-500 except: Horsepower, 285 @ 4800 rpm. Torque, 345 lbs ft @ 2800 rpm. Single 4-barrel carburetor.” (The Super Red Ram (polyspherical head engine) was 260 hp and 335 lb-ft.)"

57 was the last year for the Dodge hemis in cars at least.

REFERENCE: https://www.allpar.com/model/d500.html

A well-maintained 57 D500 engine should look much like this one:



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RUSTORICHES
Posted 2017-12-11 7:50 PM (#554110 - in reply to #554101)
Subject: Re: Is it a real 57 d500 with hemi ?


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The 57 Dodge D500s were 325 cu Hemi 4bbl 285hp. equipped[1 yr. only] Check the engine block casting it will be stamped KD500XXXX.If you pics can post them they be worth a1000 words………..or more. OOPS FORGIES FORWARDLOOK beat me to the post by a couple furlongs yes as I said and I'll repeat photos will be worth a thousand words. These pics are of one of my KD500 engines note the engine is original and in running condition but not original to this Coronet

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dodge59
Posted 2017-12-11 8:06 PM (#554113 - in reply to #554101)
Subject: Re: Is it a real 57 d500 with hemi ?



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<p>Thanks guys ! here is the hemi in question  ,  it does look all correct in the engine compartment .</p><p>   I'm waiting to get the vin tag numbers so I can decode it. that should tell me if it is a real d500 correct? Thanks again.</p><p>john</p>

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RUSTORICHES
Posted 2017-12-11 8:17 PM (#554115 - in reply to #554101)
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The VIN TAG will not give you that info the body data tag on the fire wall [passenger side] of the vehicle provides the mfg. data
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dodge59
Posted 2017-12-11 8:22 PM (#554117 - in reply to #554101)
Subject: Re: Is it a real 57 d500 with hemi ?



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<p>Ok , yeah that is the plate of was talking about ( on the cowl panel ) .</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Here is a pic of the hemi in question.</p>

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dodge59
Posted 2017-12-11 8:41 PM (#554118 - in reply to #554101)
Subject: Re: Is it a real 57 d500 with hemi ?



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one other question :
does this pic of the drv door panel appear to be for a 57 custom royal d500 model? I thought they had the real plush interiors . guess maybe not.




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56D500boy
Posted 2017-12-11 8:44 PM (#554119 - in reply to #554117)
Subject: Re: Is it a real 57 d500 with hemi ?



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dodge59 - 2017-12-11 8:22 PM
Ok , yeah that is the plate of was talking about ( on the cowl panel ) .Here is a pic of the hemi in question.




That tiny photo looks promising but it is so small. Check for the engine number as I described in my previous post.

And Glen (Rustoriches), you were probably typing your post as I frantically tried to put together the evidence in my post and beat you to the punch. You are the 57 D500 expert as far as I am concerned. I am just a student of the D500.


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dodge59
Posted 2017-12-11 8:50 PM (#554120 - in reply to #554101)
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Couldn't enlarge pic sorry . thanks guys
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-12-11 8:51 PM (#554121 - in reply to #554118)
Subject: Re: Is it a real 57 d500 with hemi ?



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dodge59 - 2017-12-11 8:41 PM one other question :
does this pic of the drv door panel appear to be for a 57 custom royal d500 model? I thought they had the real plush interiors . guess maybe not.


The D500 cars did not have a special interior. They had the same interior as the equivalent non-D500 Coronet, Royal or Custom Royal. When you post a decent sized photo of the cowl tag, it will be easier to confirm model and colors and trim (interior). Make sure the photo is larger than the ones you have been posting. The limit is 250 kB per photo (1024 x 756 is about 118 kB and is decent size).

The four door hardtop is a Custom Royal and the door panel looks like it could be the same pattern as the one in your photo. The other 57 Custom Royal photos below show some examples. One of them is in the same colours as your photo





http://www.arizona-classic.com/images/restorations/1957%20Dodge%20C...(Medium).JPG

Edited by 56D500boy 2017-12-11 8:59 PM
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dodge59
Posted 2017-12-11 9:17 PM (#554125 - in reply to #554101)
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