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60 Imp
Posted 2017-08-08 7:00 AM (#545812)
Subject: 1959 Adventurer and Seville


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This guy is clearing out the stable, stay tuned for the Polara!. Steve.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-DeSoto-Adventurer-Adventurer-/17281165...
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mikes2nd
Posted 2017-08-08 8:27 AM (#545817 - in reply to #545812)
Subject: Re: 1959 Adventurer and Seville


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some nice cars there.
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Greg P.
Posted 2017-08-08 10:01 AM (#545827 - in reply to #545812)
Subject: RE: 1959 Adventurer and Seville



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With a BIN price of $15k, that Adventurer looks like pretty fair deal. It needs a full restoration for sure, but it appears to be complete and reasonably solid. You don't see many of these offered for sale.

The Seville is interesting. My understanding is that the Seville was a spring special package offered only in 1959 and was available on Firesweep and Firedome. My stupid question... How can I tell if this is a Firesweep or a Firedome? Easy to tell on the 57-58 cars, but I'm not so sure on the 59's.



(1959 Adventurer.jpg)



(1959 Seville.jpg)



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Posted 2017-08-08 10:34 AM (#545832 - in reply to #545812)
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The 1959 Firesweep had shorter front fenders, different sized rims, different colors for the most part than did the dome

dome had a nameplate (same from 55-58) on the front fender, the sweep nameplate from 1957/58 did not fit in the space on the fender
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1960fury
Posted 2017-08-08 1:45 PM (#545847 - in reply to #545812)
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and 2d sweeps mostly (or always?) had the small rear window.
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scottbit
Posted 2017-08-08 2:16 PM (#545850 - in reply to #545812)
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Seville looks to be a sweep to me, the width of the front fender dogleg looks smaller than the one on the Adventurer to my eye.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-08-08 2:34 PM (#545854 - in reply to #545850)
Subject: Re: 1959 Adventurer and Seville



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Link to a 1959 Firesweep Seville advert:

http://www.auctionsamerica.com/events/feature-lots.cfm?Order=price&...



Another one (both small back window cars):



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Greg P.
Posted 2017-08-08 3:27 PM (#545861 - in reply to #545812)
Subject: RE: 1959 Adventurer and Seville



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Interesting. So, does a 1959 Firesweep have a "Firesweep" script anywhere on it?
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ABloch
Posted 2017-08-08 7:59 PM (#545874 - in reply to #545812)
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http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=62755&...

Same seller as this little gem. Remember?
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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2017-08-08 8:21 PM (#545875 - in reply to #545874)
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Same seller as that car and the '58 Dodge Regal Lancer that a member on here said he won recently and had problems with the seller only for the car to be relisted for 10K more than what it sold for at auction...
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Viper Guy
Posted 2017-08-08 9:52 PM (#545878 - in reply to #545861)
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Greg P. - 2017-08-08 2:27 PM

Interesting. So, does a 1959 Firesweep have a "Firesweep" script anywhere on it?


Some had it on the glove box door but none had them on the front fender from the factory. My '59 has none on the car anywhere and it is factory original.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2017-08-09 2:07 AM (#545888 - in reply to #545878)
Subject: RE: 1959 Adventurer and Seville



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That above ad for the blue Seville shows the long fenders of the 126" WB
car, so it would be a Firedome. Also note the Firedome script in the same
area. Firesweep has no side scripts, so just a glance tells the intrepid DeSoto
spotter that this is not a Firesweep and most assuredly a Firedome.

Easy peasy !
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Viper Guy
Posted 2017-08-09 9:35 AM (#545900 - in reply to #545812)
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Not so fast! I'm going out on a limb here and disagreeing with Doc. I believe it is a Firesweep as there are no scriipt locating holes in either front fender where "Firedome" would be placed and there is no script on the glovebox door. Also, in comparing the front fenders on a couple of the photos, it appears to me the Seville fenders are shorter than the Adventurer in the sill area between the fender opening and the front door.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2017-08-10 1:00 AM (#545933 - in reply to #545900)
Subject: Re: 1959 Adventurer and Seville



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Viperdude, ... I am commenting on the blue car in the 1959 ad
above as being a Firedome. I believe you are correct in thinking
the Seville for sale in the original poster's link is indeed, a Firesweep.
It has the obviously shorter fenders.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-08-10 1:11 AM (#545935 - in reply to #545933)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2017-08-10 1:00 AM Viperdude, ... I am commenting on the blue car in the 1959 ad
above as being a Firedome. I believe you are correct in thinking the Seville for sale in the original poster's link is indeed, a Firesweep.
It has the obviously shorter fenders.






Edited by 56D500boy 2017-08-10 1:14 AM




(59DesotoSevilleAdvert.jpg)



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1955Coronado
Posted 2017-08-14 2:36 AM (#546156 - in reply to #545812)
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My first finned pursuit was at age 15 in 1987 - a 1959 DeSoto Firedome Seville 4 door hardtop like the one just above, only it was solid white with a sky blue sweep. 361, torqueflite, PS, PB, dual antennas & swivels.

Carb and master cylinder were both in serious need of a rebuild, but it was an otherwise a sound, rock solid car. Lady selling it said it was her late husband's car - had an asking price of $2,500, but she wouldn't sell to a 15 year old without a driver's license. LOL!

I still have pictures of that car somewhere in a buried box around here.....
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Greg P.
Posted 2017-08-14 10:52 AM (#546169 - in reply to #545812)
Subject: RE: 1959 Adventurer and Seville



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With less than 8 hours to go, the bid is at $10,100. It doesn't say "reserve not met" so does that mean it will sell? I don't fully understand the current eBay auction rules. I also noticed that the BIN price of $15k is no longer displayed. I'm not sure what that means.

In any case, it seems like a good opportunity for someone to own a restorable 59 Adventurer. I suppose the 59's aren't as desirable as the 57's and 58's, but they are still very cool and rare cars.
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Viper Guy
Posted 2017-08-14 11:15 AM (#546172 - in reply to #545812)
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I believe the reserve has been removed and since that happened, it will sell for the high bid. (Unless there are some shenanigans going on with the bidding, and the high bidder is a "phoney".)

Many times the bidding is slow untill the final few minutes are left and then all hell breaks loose. It wouldn't surprise me on this car.


Edited by Viper Guy 2017-08-14 11:16 AM
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Posted 2017-08-14 1:29 PM (#546179 - in reply to #546169)
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Greg P. - 2017-08-14 7:52 AM
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In any case, it seems like a good opportunity for someone to own a restorable 59 Adventurer. I suppose the 59's aren't as desirable as the 57's and 58's, but they are still very cool and rare cars.


Yeah....If he actually has this car and is actually selling it. The Regal Lancer successfully sold 4 times and then was forcefully removed by Ebay on the last listing.
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ram300
Posted 2017-08-14 4:32 PM (#546192 - in reply to #546179)
Subject: RE: 1959 Adventurer and Seville



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I was semi interested in this and the other cars he has, but the consensus on here is that this seller is at the very least very deceptive? Also going on the minimal amount of pics he has posted I really can't take that risk on condition etc ......can I?



Yeah....If he actually has this car and is actually selling it. The Regal Lancer successfully sold 4 times and then was forcefully removed by Ebay on the last listing.
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-08-14 7:52 PM (#546202 - in reply to #546192)
Subject: RE: 1959 Adventurer and Seville



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Sold- the Adventurer went for $10,700. Reserve met. Good luck to the new owner.

http://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/172811650688?item=172811650688&rt=...



Edited by 56D500boy 2017-08-14 7:53 PM
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