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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-01-21 12:05 AM (#556652 - in reply to #556628)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I welded the brackets in. I painted everything, but I taped off the edge of the sheet metal
where I will be welding the new piece to it.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-01-21 8:33 PM (#556700 - in reply to #556652)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Welded the panel on. I am starting to get pretty good at welding.



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Powerflite
Posted 2018-01-21 10:54 PM (#556703 - in reply to #539736)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-01-21 11:00 PM (#556704 - in reply to #556700)
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DejaVu
Posted 2018-01-22 4:43 AM (#556717 - in reply to #556704)
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Location: South Australia		This is a great tutorial on floor repair! The piece that you still have to weld in, where the body mount bolt goes through, did you have to fabricate a new piece or are patch panels available for this? The reason I ask is that I have a few body mount points where the top skin is somewhat pitted - just wondering what the fix is :-)
Keep up the good work!
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-01-22 9:40 PM (#556776 - in reply to #556717)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Yes, they do make replacement panels for these floors. But nobody makes a really good/detailed panel.
The panels that they make are for the complete front floor section. I do not need that much, so I am
just going to fabricate a panel to cover this little area. I will probably cut an access hole for the
body mount. Then put one of those plastic plugs in the hole.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-01-25 6:40 PM (#556922 - in reply to #556776)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		One piece at a time.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-01-28 3:58 PM (#557113 - in reply to #556922)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Time to move over to the outer rockers. I made myself an armadillo, for my DeSoto.



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Posted 2018-01-28 5:00 PM (#557115 - in reply to #539736)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-01-31 7:27 PM (#557295 - in reply to #557115)
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bbrasse1 - 2018-01-28 5:00 PM

Nice! What gauge is that? The repairs look good!



I think that is the metal that I bought from Lowes, so I think it is 22 gauge.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-01-31 9:22 PM (#557300 - in reply to #539736)
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find a local sheetmetal place, many will sell wholesale sheets. I got mine from Schotts.

Lowes stopped carrying the right gauge and they are too high priced and they only carry 16 and 22 gauge.

I think it was 18 gauge.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2018-02-01 4:33 PM (#557341 - in reply to #557300)
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Location: The Mile High City		Very nice, Kurt! It is so much fun to see this project move along! I am impressed with how much you are doing yourself. Well done!
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-02-03 10:29 PM (#557470 - in reply to #557341)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Thanks Mike. I appreciate it.

Here is the Armadillo clamped on. I wanted to cut off as little as possible from the car.
I will have to patch that hole up front.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-02-04 9:40 AM (#557486 - in reply to #557470)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-02-06 8:32 PM (#557620 - in reply to #557486)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I tried to cut the front panel from one piece of metal. I missed the one corner. FYI, this area is not flat.
It sits at an angle. I might take this panel back out, make some adjustments, then flatten it again, so
I will have the pattern to make a few of them, for the other DeSotos here.

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Powerflite
Posted 2018-02-06 11:20 PM (#557629 - in reply to #539736)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-02-14 11:07 PM (#558126 - in reply to #557620)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I drilled out a couple of broken off bolts in one of the front fenders. I still need to drill out the
same ones on the other fender.

I bought this industrial light from a vendor at Carlisle, a couple years back. I rewired it, then put
a 100 watt bulb in it. I finally installed it the other day. Some days you just gotta do something goofy.




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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-02-26 4:03 PM (#558850 - in reply to #558126)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I put the fender on, temporarily, to make sure the lower fender bolt area lines up correctly.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-03-05 5:06 PM (#559293 - in reply to #558850)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		My new Data Tag from A.G. Backeast.



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Powerflite
Posted 2018-03-05 9:22 PM (#559305 - in reply to #539736)
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Posted 2018-03-06 10:56 AM (#559331 - in reply to #559305)
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Location: DFW, TX		If you're looking for brakes and drivetrain parts for this car, you might take a look here: http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=68102

Not to gloat, but my body tag was in much better condition. I even got the steel to polish up a little!



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2018-03-08 12:15 AM (#559435 - in reply to #559331)
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Location: Parts Unknown		What is the protocol for getting a new data tag from AG East ? I have no
need anymore, but spent years plexing about how I would make a correct
one for my old Adventurer ... it was quite literally a mat of rust scale where
it remained, and much of it was gone. There was no reading it. To make
matters worse, the VIN tag had fallen off the cowl during shipment, so I had
NOTHING to go off of. The car was a wrecking yard rescue, so there was no
title. I built up a set of codes, based on what I saw on the hulk, but never
tried to get a tag made.
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Posted 2018-03-08 1:55 AM (#559438 - in reply to #539736)
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Location: So. Cal		Kurt details it out for you on this thread.

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-03-09 10:43 AM (#559517 - in reply to #559435)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2018-03-08 12:15 AM

What is the protocol for getting a new data tag from AG East ? I have no
need anymore, but spent years plexing about how I would make a correct
one for my old Adventurer ... it was quite literally a mat of rust scale where
it remained, and much of it was gone. There was no reading it. To make
matters worse, the VIN tag had fallen off the cowl during shipment, so I had
NOTHING to go off of. The car was a wrecking yard rescue, so there was no
title. I built up a set of codes, based on what I saw on the hulk, but never
tried to get a tag made.


I think that the only people that would be able to help you in that situation
is Chrysler Historical. But you would have to pay them a visit. You would have
to have a unique set of options on the car, to see if you could match it up with
something on their records. But even then, I doubt that they would release
that information to you. If you don't remember what the VIN is, I think you
are out of luck.


A.G. Backeast would still be able to make a Data Plate for you, with the info you have.


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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-03-10 6:07 PM (#559609 - in reply to #557629)
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Powerflite - 2018-02-06 11:20 PM

Cool, post up the pattern when you get it done.



Here ya go. Some adjustments might need to be made. Remember, this area was mostly missing
on my car.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-03-13 11:08 AM (#559802 - in reply to #559609)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Lip numbers.



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Posted 2018-03-13 11:43 AM (#559804 - in reply to #539736)
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Posted 2018-03-13 12:01 PM (#559807 - in reply to #539736)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-03-13 11:38 PM (#559852 - in reply to #559807)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I hope it works for ya all.
Let me know.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-04-01 2:16 PM (#560889 - in reply to #559852)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		outer rocker screwed on



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-04-08 12:18 AM (#561267 - in reply to #560889)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		The last two pictures, above, are Schotts panels RP53CE. They are 71 inches. They do not go all the way to
the lip on the rear wheelwell. If you want something that covers the complete rocker panel area, then order
RP53XCE. It is 73 inches. And it has a lip for the rear wheelwell. These are excellent panels.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-06-12 1:38 PM (#565093 - in reply to #561267)
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Posted 2018-06-13 11:02 AM (#565115 - in reply to #539736)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-06-13 2:56 PM (#565120 - in reply to #565115)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Thank you. Yes, I know all about George.
But I was just kidding about these being my best lenses. I do have others.


My favorite lens is the second one from the left. That is some fancy design.

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-06-14 8:48 AM (#565140 - in reply to #565120)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I figured out how to keep those trunk bars from walking down the lid. I used these bolt on clips. I cut them
to the size I needed. Then I took a pair of needle nose pliers and bent the top edge inward, where these clips sit.




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Posted 2018-06-16 7:37 AM (#565197 - in reply to #565140)
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Very nice, Kurt!  I wonder what caused that lens to bleach like that?  Good fix on the spring special bars!

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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-06-17 10:01 PM (#565270 - in reply to #565197)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Mike, The white parts of the lens is lifting away from the rest of it. It's like its peeling.
I guess it was not molded exactly correct. Maybe it did not have enough heat. So when the
sun baked it, it just started coming apart.
The lens with the bullet hole is interesting. The hole does not go all the way through. It's like
the bulb stopped the bullet.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-07-27 6:30 PM (#567308 - in reply to #565270)
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mikes2nd
Posted 2018-07-28 2:59 AM (#567324 - in reply to #539736)
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for what? were not getting any younger here...
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-07-29 3:00 PM (#567372 - in reply to #567324)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		LOL
Well you won't have to get too much older. I estimate that I will get back to this car in the winter.
But first, I have to get this other car out of my driveway.



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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-10-21 10:17 PM (#572141 - in reply to #567308)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Well, I pushed the car outside and washed it down, and also cleaned up the garage floor.
Now I'm ready for Phase 2.

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Posted 2018-10-21 10:40 PM (#572142 - in reply to #539736)
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.. its a long fricking haul... but winter in the garage isn't a bad place to be as long as its warm

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Posted 2018-10-28 8:23 PM (#572537 - in reply to #572141)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Do ya'all remember the brace that was installed in the trunk? Well I removed it to see why it was installed
in the first place. The metal looks like it was ripped. Maybe they used too much Leaded gas.



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Posted 2018-10-28 11:12 PM (#572542 - in reply to #539736)
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someone has been hauling with that car
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Posted 2018-10-29 9:08 AM (#572555 - in reply to #572542)
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mikes2nd - 2018-10-28 11:12 PM

someone has been hauling with that car :)



Unless they hooked the trailer hitch to the gas tank straps, I don't think so.
Something pulled down on the gas tank. I never got a gas tank with this car, so I never got to see any damage. But
there is some body damage back there, so maybe they backed over someones bicycle and it caught the tank just right.



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Posted 2018-10-29 9:47 AM (#572559 - in reply to #539736)
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Location: So. Cal		It's a common occurrence for the larger cars. I have 2 Chryslers with the same thing. I believe it happens because of a combination of tightening the straps too tight, and just having a very heavy tank going over old washboard roads.
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-11-26 9:02 PM (#574179 - in reply to #572537)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		Here is the big hole in my frame.



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Posted 2018-11-26 11:08 PM (#574184 - in reply to #539736)
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Posted 2018-11-26 11:20 PM (#574185 - in reply to #539736)
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58DeSoDodge59
Posted 2018-11-26 11:26 PM (#574186 - in reply to #574184)
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Location: Wild Wonderful		I do have a 59 Dodge frame that I can cut up. Would they be the same thickness/size for this area?
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